I DID IT. Today I went out with the intention of making fire with my firesteel with natural firestarters. First off i battoned some wood with my SRK and Northstar. The i made a log cabin fire with pine needles, two pine cones, and grasses ont the bottom. The i added more grasses to the fire place and the went to work getting the starters. I used ceder bark and dired grasses from around my mom's wild flower garden. It took me a little work, but i saw the sparks catching the bark and kept at it. I then saw the coal grow into flam and added the birds nests that i made. From there to my pre-made fire and there I had fire. To say the least I was very excited and releved that I had done it. Ill try and post pictures latter. And for those who are dissillusioned, probly not to many out there, but keep working at it and you'll get it.