& Such...my first holster!

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knifeleather

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Finally got around to making some pants for my Les Baer, my first holster attempt (well, actually second - the first was too tight). Still need to tweak the pattern some, but turned out ok. Retention is great, super comfy on the belt. Fully lined, adjustable tension screw. Will definitely be making more!
thanks for looking,
Mark

 
Nice job! Holster looks great and wow on the Les Bauer too. Not top heavy on the belt?
 
Thanks Dave! One of the things I was gonna change was to lower it on the belt about 1/4", but I've been wearing it all morning and it doesn't feel top heavy at all. I'll put some more mileage on it and see what I think. My belt's pretty stiff, I'm sure that helps. One thing I'll probably add on the next one is a body shield tho.
 
Drop that trigger guard another 1/2" into the holster and I thin your center of gravity would be ok. Never had one with a body shield.
 
I'd recommend you round out your lines to prevent square edges, they will dog ear out with use and just not hold up attractively. If you like a lot of forward cant maybe something along the lines of this for my Les Baer? I'm a fan of body shields and they are a standard on the pancake models I offer.



I like to see the wings molded in to help with break in but that is personal choice. If your dead set on using a retention screw it would be more effective around the trigger guard area as your two major points of retention are the trigger guard and ejection port. Heads and shoulders better than my second attempt - keep it up!
 
Thanks guys!
Eagle, yeah gonna mold in the wings next time for sure, good point on the corners. Also the retentions good enough I probably won't need the screw. Man that's a nice rig you have there, shark is so cool...

Thanks again for the feedback!
mark
 
Knifeleather, very nice!
Have you checked out the holster thread that was going for a while?
 
The holster looks really good.

I immediately noticed that the trigger is partially exposed. I would fully cover the trigger on a 1911 to prevent any possibility of catching on something on accident, especially since most people carry them in the cocked & locked position.

Nice gun too. I'm strongly considering purchasing a similar set-up. A Kimber Super Carry Ultra.

Mike L.
 
Nice holsters. I've only made two, and I'm no pro. But they were both gifts for a friend, and one for a family member.I've never tried a lined holster.
 
Thanks guys! I've already changed the drawing to cover up the trigger, along with a few other tweaks. I'll post up my next one for comparison.
 
knifeleather said:
Thanks guys! I've already changed the drawing to cover up the trigger, along with a few other tweaks. I'll post up my next one for comparison.
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Covering the bang switch is the most important thing that a holster does. However, you will find that most cowboy holsters do not. Reason being, most revolvers were single action in those days. Now, while a 1911 is SAO, it is typically carried with a round in the chamber and the safety on. There is always the potential for something to drop the safety and you don't want anything smacking the lightweight trigger.
 
DAVE_M said:
Covering the bang switch is the most important thing that a holster does. However, you will find that most cowboy holsters do not. Reason being, most revolvers were single action in those days. Now, while a 1911 is SAO, it is typically carried with a round in the chamber and the safety on. There is always the potential for something to drop the safety and you don't want anything smacking the lightweight trigger.
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Hey Dave, I'll disagree with that respectfully. One of the most popular concealment holsters for LEO from the late teens up through the 60's & 70's was or a variant of the Threesperson's which is an open trigger design holster primarily used for DA revolvers and 1911's that is quick on the draw. In addition to that a lot of the early holsters made for single actions fit 1911's upon their arrival and you see a lot of spill over in open trigger 1911 holsters.

Trigger coverage became a serious point of contention in the early 80's when striker fired handguns with moderately weighted triggers and no external safeties came into the picture and that has spilled over to current trends. You will never seen an open trigger design for something like a Glock, M&P, or Xd and for good reason.

The holster in the OP really has no reason not to have the trigger covered, however an open trigger design does not equal an inherently unsafe design.
 
Eaglestroker said:
Hey Dave, I'll disagree with that respectfully. One of the most popular concealment holsters for LEO from the late teens up through the 60's & 70's was or a variant of the Threesperson's which is an open trigger design holster primarily used for DA revolvers and 1911's that is quick on the draw. In addition to that a lot of the early holsters made for single actions fit 1911's upon their arrival and you see a lot of spill over in open trigger 1911 holsters.

Trigger coverage became a serious point of contention in the early 80's when striker fired handguns with moderately weighted triggers and no external safeties came into the picture and that has spilled over to current trends. You will never seen an open trigger design for something like a Glock, M&P, or Xd and for good reason.

The holster in the OP really has no reason not to have the trigger covered, however an open trigger design does not equal an inherently unsafe design.
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I understand why the holsters of yesteryear featured exposed triggers, but there is no reason for it in modern times. It's funny that you mention Double Action revolvers, but say that the trigger is covered on Striker Fired handguns (which are DAO also). I covered the mention of 1911's and exposed triggers. 1911's are SAO and can be carried many ways, but IMO, the best way is "cocked and locked." That being said, I carry a Glock 17 daily, so take my opinion of how to carry a 1911 with a grain of salt.
 
DAVE_M said:
I understand why the holsters of yesteryear featured exposed triggers, but there is no reason for it in modern times. It's funny that you mention Double Action revolvers, but say that the trigger is covered on Striker Fired handguns (which are DAO also). I covered the mention of 1911's and exposed triggers. 1911's are SAO and can be carried many ways, but IMO, the best way is "cocked and locked." That being said, I carry a Glock 17 daily, so take my opinion of how to carry a 1911 with a grain of salt.
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Hey Dave, the difference between a striker fired handgun and a DA revolver is that inside the holster the trigger pull has to not only overcome the heavier than a striker fired trigger but also the friction of the cylinder attempting to rotate in the holster. I've tried to measure with a fishing scale what it would take to set off a DA in a similar holster. The gun pulls out of the holster before I can overcome the trigger, so that would be a moot point. When I've held the revolver in place I still can't get the trigger pull to overcome the cylinder binding inside of the holster. On a striker fired pistol the trigger pull would simply pull with no other resistance
and fire if loaded and stovepipe with nowhere for the loose brass to go after.

A reason why someone would want it is a matter of taste just as there are a vast array of makers here on the forums with anything from very classic knife designs to extremely modern. Nostalgia plays a large part for some peoples purchasing habits. I've sold similar Threespersons' set ups to a fair number of plain closed LEO but also make for and carry revolvers. I'd rather sell someone a variant made by modern standards than use a version made yester-year that is beyond a usable service life becoming unsafe for everyone involved.
 
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