Suggestion for Spyderco

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I would like to see another folder with the same principles as the Civilian and Matriarch in the Spyderco line-up. Correct me if i'm wrong, but the Civilian and Matriarch are knives designed to afford those with little or no self-defense training a very :eek: effective method of getting themselves out of a nasty situation, and in this role, both knives excel, however, i would like to see a knife in this category which also excels as an EDC utility knife. For the most part people are unwilling to carry about one knife for utility and another for defense, so it seems like a good idea to combine the two.

I think when most of us look for a folder for self defense, or for utility, a few factors cross our minds,

(1) Probability of fingers sliding onto the cutting edge of the blade, easily eliminated by adding a good index finger cut-out, which also makes the handle more comfortable and easy to control during utility tasks.

(2) Strength of lock, i think most of Spyderco's locks hold up just fine for both SD and utility, though a compression lock or lock-back with the David Boye dent might be best.

(3) Grippability of handle, makes micarta or stainless steel a poorer choice than G10 or textured FRN.

(4) Blade profile, a Native-like blade in VG10 (personal preference and i think more cost-effective than CPM-440V(?)) with an easy-to sharpen back swedge which is fully covered by the handle would, IMO be suitable.

(5) Deployment, not so important for utility, but for SD the knife should ride high in the pocket and should have a largish opening hole (perhaps with the Cobra Hood for reduced likelihood of fumbling in a high-stress situation).

So basically a Native with enhanced finger cut-out, VG10 steel, a larger handle, a sharpenable back-swedge, larger opening hole (maybe with Cobra Hood), a clip positioned lower on the handle (preferabley the three-screw style clip, because they are less likely to loosen) and if the blade would be over 3', it might as well be closer to 3.5 or 4' for enhanced reach.

Ok, maybe i got a bit carried away, but what does everyone think?
 
Hi M@thew. Nothing wrong with getting "carried away" in design. In fact we encourage "out of the box" thinking.

I can offer my opinions on your comments, food for thought.

It is just my opinion, but I do not think that an EDC knife used for general utility makes a good "get out of trouble" knife. The major difference is the edge. In order for a knife to be effective, it must be very sharp...crispy sharp! IMO, that is more important than size, appearance, or shape. If it has been dulled by cutting boxes or sheetrock all day, it is not likely to have much "biting power".

In the USA, Civvies & Matriarchs are marketed to Law enforcement Professionals. They are not even shown in our consumer catalog (PDR).

A sharp Cricket, Ladybug or Jester is plenty, especially if it has tteth.

With that in mind, shape can be as one prefers.

sal
 
Sal Glesser,
Thanks for expressing your opinion on the matter, i know i'm not the only one who values it highly. Personally my EDC's don't see enough use to dull them during the day, i didn't take into account that other people's uses differ, and i know cardboard can be very abrasive on an edge.
I once had an accident (due to stupidity) where i lighly flicked my opened Merlin (with teeth) against my leg only a few days after getting it, i ended up going to minor injuries with a small 'gaping wound' which required two stitches (i posted about this), the knife hit my denim jeans with minimal pressure and ate through them like they didn't exist, i have no doubt that if any Spyderedge knife was applied with any amount of force to an assailant, significant damage would be done. A Spyderedge Police is on my 'must have' list for that very reason, just waiting for the VG10 models to filter through.
As a side note, i own and have used many Spyderco products and have always found them to be top quality in terms of design, materials, fit and finish. :)
 
Hi M@thew. Always keep in mind that the goal is to NOT hurt anyone. The purpose of any martial art, MBC included, is to stop the bad guy from hurting the innocents, IMO.

Sorry about your cut. "I know the feeling". and thank you for the kind words.

We tell a story at Spyderco; "When you go to buy a drill, you don't want a drill. What you want is a hole. Keep sight of the goal".

sal
 
Mr. Glesser,
The purpose of any martial art, MBC included, is to stop the bad guy from hurting the innocents, IMO.
Agreed. Unfortunately, it's all too easy to find yourself in a situation where you have to do just that.
I was a little red-faced when it came to 'tell your friend why you're limping' time lol but apart from that the cut didn't bother me, i was quite happy to experience my first (and last so far) stitches (i'm sure you have just a few more than me!). You're welcome for the 'kind words', you deserve no less.
Thanks for the quote, i'll bear that in mind, my personal favorites are "proper preparation prevents poor performance" taken from a special forces motto, and "do it once and do it right" taken from a book by Lee Child. :) Have a good day.
 
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