Suggestions and questions

I.V

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I think a Fallkniven U2 and a Spyderco Cricket would look sweet in titanium handles ;)
That's it for the suggestions :D

I also have a couple of questions, first, how would you rate the locking systems on SAKs? the ones with sliding buttons (I make it a habit not to buy liner locks).

My second question is regarding a project I would like to do but not sure how to approach. I have a Spyderco G-2 Snap-it and I think it has a great blade and a very strong lock but I would like to beef up the handle (Maybe somehow add 2 steel liners) and move the shackle to the other side of the handle.. any suggestion on how to get this done? what tools to use?
 
I have rebuilt a few U2 Fallkniven knives and added pocket clips, as well as thumb studs to them for quite a few members of several forums. I posted those in the Fallkniven forum a good while back. Can't find them currently but I'll see what I can do.

I have not used the SAK sliding lock you speak of. The one I have has a lock that is sort of like a lock back only you push the little wing down to release it. It has never held though and in fact I cut the wing off after owning the knife for about 10 years and never missed it. Now it works about like the UKPenKnife does. Its a Wenger though and not a Vic.

I'm going to have to look up the Snap It. Not familar with it. Let me look it over and see what I can tell from just seeing pictures of it. If you have some and can post them it might help.

STR
 
Well, I've looked at several pictures of that Snap It and I really can't learn anything from them.

It appears to be one I can't get a good clear shot of all angles on to really answer your question. Without knowing how that shackle is installed, or the original make up of the folder I can't really say.

It looks like a plain FRN folder and that the Shackle is too. Is that shackle metal?

STR
 
I only have a camera on my phone and it's not a very good one so I'll try to explain and send you pictures if they're really needed.
The Snap It is a very simple design though, regular Spyderoc FRN knife but with a very beefy lock even more than the Native in my eyes. The shackle is also very simple, it's steel coated with FRN and it's connected to the side of the knife at the pivot pin. If the pivot is removed both the shackle and blade come free so I was thinking it's a matter ot just screwing it to the other side of the handle.
 
If that is the case I'm sure you are correct.

Ok the liners are going to be a tough chore for you. I'll explain that at the end.

To move the shackle and install a new removable adjustable barrel for a novice without a lot of equipment I'd do the following:

Its very hard to take the heads off those FRN folders without damaging the sides. So, much so its nearly impossible really. I usually use a thin kerf cut off disc and a variable speed dremmel to remove the smaller head size. Get one on the mandrel that is used and small from being cut with so its not as big around and you can use that cut off disc to take off the head without too much damage to much more than the washer underneath. You'll discard that anyway. Be very careful about too much lateral stress on the blade once you get the head off. Use a punch to pop that out. Be prepared for when you take the blade out for the spring to fall out of the folder and make note of how it goes in and out.

You will need a 1/8 dimeter carbide drill from Jantz supply, part number TD608 after you get the blade out. Use that, preferably in a drill press at high speed to drill out the hole in the pivot of the blade to that new size. You might tape off the edge first though or wear heavy gloves. Once done dip the blade in some water to cool it off. Since there is a hole there already it won't get real hot though.

Once the hole is redrilled you need a 1/8" pivot barrel and two screws. Test the fit of that in the new hole. If it doesn't slide right through you may need to do a bit of reaming and you can probably do that with the drill bit you used in a pinch if you have nothing else.

Once your new 1/8" pivot barrel slides in and out easy set the blade aside and redrill the hole in the FRN and perhaps the shackle also in this case.

Then you can screw one screw into the barrel and stick it in place in your handle with the blade, and shackle as you want them. Do this while depressing the lockbar down of course and once seated mark the other non screw side of your pivot barrel where it will need cut.

At this point you can then take the barrel back out and with some small vice grips to hold it securely use the same cut off disc or a new one to cut off the excess and smooth the end to rid it of the burr that will form from cutting it off. You will then need to dawn gloves and drill a 3/32 hole in a sheet of brass or scrap metal very, preferably a piece fairly thin. Stick the screw through that hole you drilled and cut it using that same cut off disc about in half holding it in place with the gloved thumb because it will get hot. Let the disc do the work it won't take long if you take it easy. Once both screws are cut to length you can then install the pivot in the blade and shackle mounted on the opposite side while depressing the lock bar and tighten it down a bit to test fire the lock up and see how you did. If it all goes well then I'd recommend using it for a bit, seeing if one or both screws loosen and if so either loctite it with some blue loctite or ream the pivot hole somemore so the barrel isn't moving when you rotate the blade opened and closed.

For liners to be installed you will need to discard the old FRN after you cut each side off the spacer in the rear and remove and metal in the folder. You will need both scales to trace out the liners, and the now separate spring holder spacer to trace a new one out of metal. You will have to make more than liners because you have and FRN spring holder too no doubt in that knife so you are looking at needing to make that also and that is a bear to just jump right into. Not something for the novice I'd say. Cutting thicker titanium or stainless is quite hard to do unless you have a bigger quality band saw and some bi metal blades or access to a laser let alone to a very specific shape with the proper angle cut for the spring to work as it should.

Should you decide to go there It requires a digital caliper to measure the thickness you need and then some tools and additional barrels or the ability to thread holes after drilling them to make it all work.

Then of course you have to make new scales or you would use slab handle thickness titanium or stainless to build the knife handle over.

Its about like making a knife really because you are basically short of grinding the blade and lockbar out after tracing and cutting those out.

STR
 
I just thought of something. I don't mean to imply that you are a novice. I really don't know that. I'm just suggesting that if you don't have the means to do certain things the 'ideal' way that the above can maybe get you buy with some easy shortcuts.

STR
 
I think a cricket would look cute in pink

I could get a mauve or purple but not a pink in titanium. That bright mauve can be pink looking though at times.

An all titanium cricket would be cool. I did a BladeTech Mouse that way for someone. It was a stout little folder.

Here are the links to it if you want to see one that size in ti.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61975&d=1162259751

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61973&d=1162259735

STR
 
A frame lock titanium cricket would be pretty nice. It'd almost be begging to have some kind of texture or pattern on it though.
 
I am a novice and have done very little in the past to modify knives :o

Some shortcuts may definately help.. I lack most of the proper tools to do it anyway :D

By the way, I have no no problem volunteering my Cricket for experiments if you want it.
 
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