Suggestions for a "NY" knife

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I need a knife to carry in NY state.

From my understanding of the situation it has to be concealed and it seems a fixed blade is the best option. Blade must be under 4in and single edged.

Would prefer for it to come with an IWB leather sheath, however, kydex would work so long as it's IWB. I know I could send it out for a sheath but would prefer it to be ready to go when I get it.

Also, a smaller handle would be good for concealment and it being a little PC would be a plus.

If I'm incorrect in any of my assumptions please let me know.

Thanks in advance!
 
I'd recommend anything from the Boker Chad Los Banos series.They're great little/big knives with good ergos.They have FB's & folders.

If you want to spend a litte more for higher quality,Bark River has a huge selection.
 
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I'd look into that fixed is better than folder theory
From my understanding,a folder with a blade 3" or less,as long as there is no clip,or visible outside your pocket,you're GTG inside NYC limits,witch should be good outside NYC ,in NY state
Concealed fixed blade,not so sure
-Vince
 
VCM3 said:
I'd look into that fixed is better than folder theory
From my understanding,a folder with a blade 3" or less,as long as there is no clip,or visible outside your pocket,you're GTG inside NYC limits,witch should be good outside NYC ,in NY state
Concealed fixed blade,not so sure
-Vince
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Vince - this is only correct in theory. NY considers virtually all folders capable of one handed opening to be a prohibited "gravity knife."

I won't elaborate here, but instead direct you the "knife laws" forum - see all "NY" threads.
 
I live in New York (not NYC). Where on Albany's blighted asphalt did you get your information? People here (some of them)carry clip-equipped folders all the time in their pockets. A fixed blade, particularly concealed, will get you in trouble a lot faster if it comes to that (though hide any pocketknife before entering the state fair). Basically, if they want to hassle you, they will, but conduct yourself reasonably and there will be no problem.

When in doubt (such as when I go to NYC) I carry a disposable folder from an outlet mall or "dollar" store.
 
Sharp Phil said:
Where on Albany's blighted asphalt did you get your information?

When in doubt (such as when I go to NYC) I carry a disposable folder from an outlet mall or "dollar" store.
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Phil - I get my info from this forum!

Read thru the NY threads on the knife law forum. Here is just the tip of the iceberg:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=556529

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=541277

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=563133
 
Not you, the original poster. You posted while I was typing my reply.

As a resident of New York I can tell you that you can go into any Wal-Mart and buy an assisted-opening Kershaw or a CRKT or any of several other clip-equpped, tactical folding knives. I was in a pizza shop just Friday and noticed the clip-equipped knife that a customer had in his pocket (and I think it was actually a Leek). The laws are super vague and could conceivably be used to outlaw just about anything, but in practice you can carry a wide variety of knives if you don't conduct yourself like a scumbag. For those times when I am not sure, I carry a knife I don't mind throwing away.
 
Sharp Phil said:
Not you, the original poster. You posted while I was typing my reply.

As a resident of New York I can tell you that you can go into any Wal-Mart and buy an assisted-opening Kershaw or a CRKT or any of several other clip-equpped, tactical folding knives. I was in a pizza shop just Friday and noticed the clip-equipped knife that a customer had in his pocket (and I think it was actually a Leek). The laws are super vague and could conceivably be used to outlaw just about anything, but in practice you can carry a wide variety of knives if you don't conduct yourself like a scumbag. For those times when I am not sure, I carry a knife I don't mind throwing away.
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FYI...what you can purchase and possess and what you can legally carry are not necessarily one and the same. I would not presume Walmart or the like to proactively remove products from their shelves just because they *can* be used illegally. Be careful to differentiate between laws regarding the carrying of knives and the possession of knives. They are not always consistent.
 
I thought I said as much...? My point was not that the knives were legal because they are for sale -- my point was that they are commonly available and commonly carried, and regardless of the letter of the law (which is so vague that any knife can be considered illegal) you can pretty much get away with carrying any reasonable knife you can buy if you conduct yourself properly. Most police officers are not aware of the letter of the law anyway, and use a variety of myth, misinformation, and apocryphal rules of thumb when judging the legality of a knife carried by someone they search (such as the venerable palm-of-the-hand test).
 
This thread belongs in Knife Laws, so I will move it there from the General Knife discussion.

The original poster asked about New York State but as usual, misinformation on New York City mixes in. The City laws require a single-edged knife blade under 4" carried concealed. IWB is arguably not entirely concealed. Pocket clips are not illegal but using one again is not fully concealed, legal carry. Folders that lock open will probably be considered gravity knives if an officer can snap the blade open by holding handle or blade and applying a forceful swing of his arm.

And now, back to New York STATE law ... :)
 
Folders that lock open will probably be considered gravity knives if an officer can snap the blade open by holding handle or blade and applying a forceful swing of his arm.
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There have been arrests made outside New York City for criminal posession of a weapon under the NYS Penal Code for carrying a flickable lock knife. I have cited at least 2 very recent cases in the past (In Nassau and Suffolk counties IIRC), and I bet there probably have been others that didn't go to appeal. In all instances that I found, those prosecutions were tack-ons, however that's how gravity knife enforcement started in NYC. just because they aren't enforcing gravity knife laws yet, doesn't mean they won't at any point in the future.
 
I agree with mp510 that many other parts of NY are starting to view a gravity knife the same way NYC has. I witnessed this in Nassau County a few months back, when two Nassau plaincloths officers stopped three teens at the Broadway Mall, and searched them. One officer recovered a simple liner lock that he could flick open and the teen was under arrest in a second. The second officer actually questioned the arresting officer if that was a gravity knife and the arresting officer said "if it flicks open it is". My best guess ( as a former NYC LEO) is the officer making the arrest was a former NYC Officer as a high percentage of Nassau Officers were once officers in the city first mostly due to the city hiring 40,000 officers compared to Nassau having only 2,700.
 
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