Sunday Afternoon with HI Dragon Indonesian Sword

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HI DRAGON INDONESIAN SWORD BY ROYAL KAMI BURA

Overall lneght -- 28''
Weight -- 44 oz
Spine thickness -- 3/8''
Single dragon engraved on one side of blade
Steel guard
Satisal wood handle
Standard leather scabard
Awesome buy at $275 which includes one HI T-shirt gift
Be sure to email your size


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It sure looks like a Klewang! A Sumatran Klewang.

44 Ounce = 2.75030 Pound(Lb)
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A heavyweight Klewang champ! Normally a 28" Klewang weigh less than 2 lbs!

Somebody better grab this awesome knife fast :thumbup:
 
Mohd, why did you say it's nice? Please elaborate....... The sword looks very Nepalese to me, especially the scabbard, and the Malay dragon motif doesnt look Malay either.

Maybe, the kami should stick to making khukuris only........
 
Arya- just a comment- the kamis don't try to copy anything exactly. They put their own spin on things they create, "inspired" by foreign knife/sword styles.

The HI falcatas and seaxes, for example, are far from celtic but are a unique blend of art styles- and well made.

Wish I could afford this sword. "Indonesian-style" Dragon Sword would be a more exact name. Isn't the engraving nice? (though a Nepalese-style dragon it might be).

If 25" khukuries count, I have 9 HI swords. Personally, I'm glad they're making them.

Mike
 
You know, something that always interested me, is why HI markets the "falcata" as a falcata, rather than a Kopis. They're nearly identical, but it would seem that the kukri would have derived from the kopis, which was greek, rather than the falcata, which was indigenous to the celts.

Is it maybe because they thought westerners would recognise the falcata name more than the kopis?
 
Don't forget the Dacian Falx swords. They're similar to that long-handled 'Crescent Moon Sirupati' which was mentioned a while back.

It's been theorized by some that both the Iberian Gallic falcata and the Greek kopis were both derived from an Etruscan origin.
 
What's even more interesting is that although obviously from a common origin, they were developed independantly from each other, yet came out nearly identical.

Great minds stink alike. ;)
 
Wolf_1989 said:
Don't forget the Dacian Falx swords. They're similar to that long-handled 'Crescent Moon Sirupati' which was mentioned a while back.

It's been theorized by some that both the Iberian Gallic falcata and the Greek kopis were both derived from an Etruscan origin.
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I think that premise is being challenged now. There are a couple good threads on the connection or lack of over at Sword Forums and MyArmory.

Kopis, falcata(a modern word btw), and Falx are my favorite ancient weapons.
 
tedwca said:
Kopis, falcata(a modern word btw), and Falx are my favorite ancient weapons.
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I agree. That's one of the reasons I love the khukri. It's the last surviving relative of those ancient choppers.

I like the HI falcata, but I'd like it more if the handle was either A) shorter/smaller or B) more like the greek kopis.

As it is, it seems better proportioned to someone 8 feet tall.

One thing I considered was a falcata with a handle similar to that of the Chitlangi Bowie, but without rings and with the back guard removed.

...falcata(a modern word btw)...
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Yes, first used by Fernando Fulgosio in the 19th century to describe these swords.
 
What about the quote from Livy, the Roman historian?

"The Celts fought with spears and knives, but, above all, they wielded the falcata, which could cut the arms at the shoulder and sever heads with one chop..."

- Livy
 
From Wikipedia:

The term Falcata is not ancient. It seems to have been coined by Fernando Fulgosio in 1872,[1] on the model of the Latin expression ensis falcatus "sickle-shaped sword" (which, however, refers to the Harpe*). He presumably went with falcata rather than falcatus because the Spanish word for sword espada is feminine, althought there are other presumable theories. The name caught on very quickly, and is now firmly entrenched in the scholarly literature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcata

*Harpe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpe
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Romans probably did use "machaera Hispana..."

Interesting.

"Origin

The falcata-like swords were derived from the sickle-shape knives of the Iron Age, that too explains their ritual uses. It is thought that it was introduced in the Iberian Peninsula by the Celts who spread the iron technology. It seems that its origin is parallel to the Greek Kopis, and not derived from it."

Mike
 
I just got this modern version of a kopis, the Yataghan(an interpretation of the Turkish weapon).

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Cpl Punishment said:
You know, something that always interested me, is why HI markets the "falcata" as a falcata, rather than a Kopis. They're nearly identical, but it would seem that the kukri would have derived from the kopis, which was greek, rather than the falcata, which was indigenous to the celts.

Is it maybe because they thought westerners would recognise the falcata name more than the kopis?
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One of the forumites, Ferrous Wheel I believe, designed the falcata and had the kamis make him one to his specs. He also named it.
 
Oh, man. I shouldn't have asked. Now I'm in love. In love with Ishtar, that is.
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Hmm, maybe I should inquire about an HI version? Riveted wood handle, extend the blade to 12", and leave it a villager finish (polished wouldn't be right, it needs that medieval touch to it).
 
tedwca said:
One of the forumites, Ferrous Wheel I believe, designed the falcata and had the kamis make him one to his specs. He also named it.
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Actually it was a German forumite by the name of Anton Irmen who made the falcata model.

Bob
 
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