Sunday's Hijack Avoidance Thread

DarrylS

DarrylS

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:cool: ....Not wanting to hijack any threads, I have a silly question about Ebay. Yesterday I was watching a 531 Buck that was up for auction...it went for a little over $100 which is just about what they've been going for all year. Today I went to look at the completed listing again and I found that Ebay had taken the auction and cancelled it...this was "AFTER" it had been completed. Has anyone seen this happen before? I wonder what would cause that to occur...:confused:
 
DarrylS said:
:cool: ....Not wanting to hijack any threads, I have a silly question about Ebay. Yesterday I was watching a 531 Buck that was up for auction...it went for a little over $100 which is just about what they've been going for all year. Today I went to look at the completed listing again and I found that Ebay had taken the auction and cancelled it...this was "AFTER" it had been completed. Has anyone seen this happen before? I wonder what would cause that to occur...:confused:
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you know i have seen that before and seen were two difrent bidders were listed as winners
yes i wandered on that also ...
any 'bayers out there in the know?
 
...well the very Buck 531x that had been won by a bidder the other day and was subsequently removed from the Ebay listings is now back with a new Ebay number. I wonder if the bidder who won it decided he didn't want it or if the seller decided he didn't want to sell it for the amount it was won at. I wouldn't think a seller could arbitrarily decide that he didn't want to sell after the bidding was done nor could the buyer back out of the deal so quickly and easily. I may toss a bid or two out at this one myself but a forum member has already put up the first bid on it. We'll see what happens...:confused:
 
I think my main complaint about eBay is the frequency of their code changes...it seems every few weeks, they implement another logon code change...I use an auction tracker, to keep track of multiple auctions; their bids, who bid, when it ends, etc...and it has to be updated every time eBay changes their code (it keeps track of your auctions which requires a logon)...eBay seems to be changing their logon procedure frequently, possibly to keep spoofing to a minimum...but where I could logon in as little as 10 seconds [and bid], it now takes 18 seconds or longer [21 secs seems to be the highest]...this has upset my bidding quite a bit; as there are always last-minute bids from broadband users...and I can't get in there...

Aside from that, I've noticed that eBay allows Minimum Bid changes during an auction...(at least if there is no bid yet)...You might expect this, if the seller felt his minimum bid was too high, but I've seen at least one auction where the minimum was *raised*... :(

I've also been informed a day or so after an auction ended that as 2nd highest bidder, I was allowed to claim an auction for my highest bid if I so desired, as the high bidder had defaulted on the sale...this was a welcome surprise... :)
 
hi darryl i recently bid on a knife on the bay and won but i had ignored the warning during bidding that the seller might not ship to my location so when i sent paypal payment it was promptly returned with a note from the seller stating again that he would not ship out of the US period i thought i had purchased from him before but had not so i cant blame him usually i ask the seller before bidding if he is willing to ship to me and with two exceptions they have all been great and said add the few bucks for the shipping and no problem
bcci #688 lifetime
 
Buckman#10's post reminded me that several auctions I've won only accepted money orders, not PayPal...and some would accept PayPal, but not money orders... :rolleyes:
 
...Those are all good reasons for that auction being pulled...Never thought about the PayPal or delivery thing but then I've been lucky they haven't come up for me yet...Thanks guys...:thumbup:
 
chickentrax said:
I think my main complaint about eBay is the frequency of their code changes...it seems every few weeks, they implement another logon code change...I use an auction tracker, to keep track of multiple auctions; their bids, who bid, when it ends, etc...and it has to be updated every time eBay changes their code (it keeps track of your auctions which requires a logon)...eBay seems to be changing their logon procedure frequently, possibly to keep spoofing to a minimum...but where I could logon in as little as 10 seconds [and bid], it now takes 18 seconds or longer [21 secs seems to be the highest]...this has upset my bidding quite a bit; as there are always last-minute bids from broadband users...and I can't get in there...

hi trax i hear ya on the slow logon and welcome to my world ;) even now with my second high speed system 21 secs would be quick but i am blaming that on anti-buck gremlins in my computer

Aside from that, I've noticed that eBay allows Minimum Bid changes during an auction...(at least if there is no bid yet)...You might expect this, if the seller felt his minimum bid was too high, but I've seen at least one auction where the minimum was *raised*... :(

i can see lowering the minimum bid but to raise it shouldnt he have to cancel the auction and relist it ?

I've also been informed a day or so after an auction ended that as 2nd highest bidder, I was allowed to claim an auction for my highest bid if I so desired, as the high bidder had defaulted on the sale...this was a welcome surprise... :)
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yes i too have gotten the second chance offer many times and usually accept and have had no problems but i have seen some sellers that state in their auctions they never send second chance offers so now when i get one i always check the sellers page to verify i think sometimes the deal falls through and sometimes the seller has multiple items hence the second chance
bcci #688 lifetime
 
buckman#10 said:
... i think sometimes the deal falls through and sometimes the seller has multiple items hence the second chance
bcci #688 lifetime
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I've asked a seller if he had any more items [it was a cycle salvage yard] as I would be interested, and he PM'd me back that eBay sent *him* a warning about selling off-eBay... :rolleyes:

i can see lowering the minimum bid but to raise it shouldnt he have to cancel the auction and relist it ?
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I don't know...but no one had bid yet, and the auction was early...maybe a mistake, and eBay let him correct it??? :confused:
 
chickentrax said:
I've asked a seller if he had any more items [it was a cycle salvage yard] as I would be interested, and he PM'd me back that eBay sent *him* a warning about selling off-eBay... :rolleyes:
yea they want their cut for sure:jerkit:


I don't know...but no one had bid yet, and the auction was early...maybe a mistake, and eBay let him correct it??? :confused:
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i guess if there were no bids its the same difference if he relists or changes it
 
I have had a seller just stop an auction one day before it was due to close. I was the high bidder; I emailed the seller and was told the bid was to low. The seller also said he was going to loose money if it sold at that price! I thought that was what a reserve was for!!!! That seller did that multiple times to other folks as well. I checked with ebay and as the auction did not end I could not even leave bad feedback. Go figure.

jb4570
 
jb thats a sh***y deal a person could forgive that happening once or maybe even a couple of times as they might not be aware of the reserve feature but when it happens numerous times its just wrong and no better than having stooges IMO
 
chickentrax said:
Is a stooge the same as a shill??? :confused:
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trax now im not sure what you mean by shill as i havent heard that one before but by stooges i meant friends or associates helping to bump the bids on the computer it is hard to tell but i have seen a lot of that at live farm auctions and i think thats poor business and damn near criminal but thats just my take on it
 
jb4570 said:
I have had a seller just stop an auction one day before it was due to close. I was the high bidder; I emailed the seller and was told the bid was to low. The seller also said he was going to loose money if it sold at that price! I thought that was what a reserve was for!!!! That seller did that multiple times to there folks as well. I checked with ebay and as the auction did not end I could not even leave bad feedback. Go figure.

jb4570
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Yes,the seller can set a reserve or minimum bid to avoid selling to low.When I list items I don't do anything risky like have a no reserve and ridiculously low starting bid.The seller you had the experience with made a bad judgement call doing that and cancelling the auction.Also it has been my experience that items high in demand do not get much bidding action until the last hour before it ends.One of My last auctions climbed a couple hundred dollars in the last seconds near the end,so the seller that cancelled his auction on you panicked more than likely needlessly.
 
buckman#10 said:
...by stooges i meant friends or associates helping to bump the bids...
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Yep; that's it.

I got burned a couple years back by an online scam artist who organized group buys and substituted inferior products, refused refunds etc...he had several stooges/shills who kept vouching for his integrity and claiming they were getting great values etc... :grumpy:
 
sorry to hear trax that its like a worst possible scenario not just one or two but a group of like minded crooks it makes it a lot harder to catch until its to late
 
TOMBSTONE said:
Yes,the seller can set a reserve or minimum bid to avoid selling to low.When I list items I don't do anything risky like have a no reserve and ridiculously low starting bid.The seller you had the experience with made a bad judgement call doing that and cancelling the auction.Also it has been my experience that items high in demand do not get much bidding action until the last hour before it ends.One of My last auctions climbed a couple hundred dollars in the last seconds near the end,so the seller that cancelled his auction on you panicked more than likely needlessly.
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TS,

I also thought it was bad judgement on their part. However, ebay allows that kind of behavior. That seller has some very nice and unique knives; I believe the no reserve tactic was to get folks to bid on the high end items and hope for a bidding war to drive up the price. Most of that sellers items are at his ebay store for along time. If I was wealthy I'd buy a lot of those knives from him/her. So....I guess I'm saying I don't harbor any ill feelings from that event.

jb4570
 
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