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I am seeing a lot of new "faces" on this forum and don't know if they were around when this was posted before. If anyone needs a copy in Word or Excel format, shoot me an email.
Knifemaking Supply Houses
general knifemaking supplies - kit blades, handle material, hardware, grinders,
buffing compound, etc.
Downie Knives downieknives.downie.com
10076 Estate Dr.
Port Franks, Ontario, Canada N0M2L0
Tel: 519.243.2290
Jantz Supply http://www.jantzsupply.com/
P.O. Box 584 email: jantz@brightok.net
309 West Main
Davis, OK 73030
Order Line: 800-351-8900
Phone: 580-369-2316
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877
Fax: 520-537-8066
Order Line: 800-972-1192
Sheffield Knifemakers Supply Inc
PO Box 741107
Orange City, FL 32774-1107
cust serv 1-904-775-6453
fax 1-904-774-5754
Texas Knifemaker's Supply http://www.texasknife.com
10649 Haddington #180 email: jimll@hal-pc.org
Houston, TX 77043
Phone: 713/461-8632
Toll Free: 888-461-8632
Fax: 713/461-8221
Tru-Grit http://www.trugrit.com/
760 E. Francis St. N email: Trugrit1@aol.com
Ontario, CA 91761
Sales & Technical Support: 909-923-4116
Outside of California (orders only: 800-532-3336)
Information - Trugrit1@aol.com
Koval http://www.kmg.org/kovalknives/index.html
5819 Zarley Street Suite A
P.O. Box 492
New Albany, Ohio 43054 USA
Ph. (800) 556-4837
In Ohio (614)855-0777
Fax (614) 855-0945
Pop Knives and Supplies
James Poplin
103 Oak St.
Washington GA 30673
Tel: 706-678-5408
Universal Agencies Inc. http://www.uai.org ~or~ http://www.knifesupplies.com
4690 South Old Peachtree Rd. Suite C email: info@uai.org
Norcross, GA 30071-1517
Tel: 678.969.9147
Fax: 678.969.9169
Order Tel. 1.800.864.7824
Steel
Downie Knives downieknives.downie.com
10076 Estate Dr.
Port Franks, Ontario, Canada N0M2L0
Tel: 519.243.2290 Damasteel, 440C, ATS34 Damascus
Jantz Supply http://www.jantzsupply.com/
P.O. Box 584 email: jantz@brightok.net
309 West Main 440C, ATS34, A2, Damascus, D2, O1, 1095
Davis, OK 73030
Order Line: 800-351-8900
Phone: 580-369-2316
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877 440C, 154CM, ATS34, D2 (mill run)
Fax: 520-537-8066 440C, ATS34, 01 (precision ground)
Order Line: 800-972-1192
Sheffield Knifemakers Supply Inc
PO Box 741107
Orange City, FL 32774-1107
cust serv 1-904-775-6453
fax 1-904-774-5754
Texas Knifemaker's Supply http://www.siteblazer.net/texasknife/
10649 Haddington #180 email: jimll@hal-pc.org
Houston, TX 77043 440C, 440V, 154CM, ATS34, D2,
Phone: 713/461-8632 Damascus billets
Toll Free: 888-461-8632
Fax: 713/461-8221
Tru-Grit http://www.trugrit.com/
760 E. Francis St. N email: Trugrit1@aol.com
Ontario, CA 91761
Sales & Technical Support: 909-923-4116
Outside of California (orders only: 800-532-3336)
Information - Trugrit1@aol.com ATS34 440C Damascus
Koval http://www.kmg.org/kovalknives/index.html
5819 Zarley Street Suite A
P.O. Box 492
New Albany, Ohio 43054 USA
Ph. (800) 556-4837
In Ohio (614)855-0777
Fax (614) 855-0945
Universal Agencies Inc. http://www.uai.org ~or~ http://www.knifesupplies.com
4690 South Old Peachtree Rd. Suite C email: info@uai.org
Norcross, GA 30071-1517 Damascus billets
Tel: 678.969.9147
Fax: 678.969.9169
Order Tel. 1.800.864.7824
Rex Walter email: mailto: rexnpam@thesafety.net
637 Portersville Road 52100 in barstock, $2.00/inch, additional
Ellwood City, PA 16117 $1.00/inch for surface grinding down to
about .100 inch as of 2/1/2000
Admiral Steel http://www.admiralsteel.com
4152 West 123rd Street sales@admiralsteel.com
Alsip, IL 60803 1084, 1095, 5160, O1, A2, D2, 440C, ATS34,
Tel: (800) 323-7055 BG42
Fax: (708) 388-9317
Caffrey Knives http://www.caffreyknives.com
2608 Central Ave. West Damascus and 52100 barstock made per
Great Falls, MT 59404 order.
Tel: 406-727-9102
Swain Spring Service
contact: Jeff Carlisle 5160, 52100 round stock, 15N20 and
Great Falls, MT 59404 nickel strip
Tel: 800-378-1246
Meier Steel http://www.meiersteel.com/
Daryl Meier Damascus
75 Forge Road
Carbondale, IL 62901
Tel: 618-549-3234
Fax: 618-549-6239
Simonich Knives http://www.simonichknives.com/idxtest.htm
Box 278 rob@simonichknives.com
Clancy, Montana 59634
Tel: (406)933-9151 Talonite
Fax: (406)933-8910
Schott Knives http://www.angelfire.com/ct/schottknives/
Ed Schott shtml?Category=
EdwardRSchott@aol.com
CPM3V & CPM420V
Crucible
Bruce Di Vita http://www.crucibleservice.com
1101 Avenue H East
Arlington, TX 76011
(817) 640-7777
(800) 365-1168
Forging Supplies
Centaur Forge Ltd. Web Site: http://www.centaurforge.com/
117 North Spring St.
Post Office Box 340
Burlington, WI 53105-0340
Office: 1-262-763-9175
Orders: 1-800-666-9175
Fax: 1-262-763-8350
NC Tools
Greensboro, NC
1-800-446-6498
Wallace Metal Work email: WalmetaLwk@aol.com
R.D. 1 Blacksmith Lane,
Kempton, PA 19529
Tel: 610.756.3377
Fax: 610.756.3939
Handle Material wood, stabilized wood, mother of pearl, bone,
oosic, ivory, etc
Page Belting Co. : http://www.pagebelting.com/leathspec.html
Request info from Candy Robinson. leather washers for KABAR type knives
(unconfirmed)
Twin Leather Company, Inc leather washers for KABAR type knives
932 North Montello Street
Brockton, MA 02401 USA
Tel. 508 583-3485 or 1 800 205-9813 email: sales@twinleather.com
Mother of Pearl Co. Inc
293 Belden Circle/P.O. Box 445 http://www.knifehandles.com/
Franklin, NC 28734 email: mopco@clickcom.com
Phone: (828) 524-6842
Fax: (828) 369-7809
Anchorage Cutlery http://www.anchoragecutlery.com
1199 E. Dimond Blvd. email: cutlery@artic.net
Anchorage, AK 99515
Phone: (907) 344-1856
Fax: (907) 344-7671
Halpern Titanium http://www.halperntitanium.com/
14 Maxwell Road
Monson, MA 01057 specializing in Titanium for Knifemakers
Tel: (888) 283-8627 G10, carbon fiber
Fax: (413) 289-2372
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877
Fax: 520-537-8066
Order Line: 800-972-1192
Texas Knifemaker's Supply http://www.siteblazer.net/texasknife/
10649 Haddington #180 email: jimll@hal-pc.org
Houston, TX 77043
Phone: 713/461-8632
Toll Free: 888-461-8632
Fax: 713/461-8221
Tru-Grit http://www.trugrit.com/
760 E. Francis St. N email: Trugrit1@aol.com
Ontario, CA 91761
Sales & Technical Support: 909-923-4116
Outside of California (orders only: 800-532-3336)
Information - Trugrit1@aol.com
Universal Agencies Inc. http://www.uai.org ~or~ www.knifesupplies.com
330 Hannaford Drive email: info@uai.org
Roswell, GA 30075-3271
Tel: 770.640.9330
Fax: 770.640.9852
Downie Knives downieknives.downie.com
10076 Estate Dr.
Port Franks, Ontario, Canada N0M2L0
Tel: 519.243.2290
Masecrafts
254 Amity St amber
P.O. Box 423
Meriden CT 06450
1-800-682-5489
Miguel's Desert Ironwood http://www.askpubs.com/wood/Pricing.html
P.O. Box 33368
Riverside, MO 64168
Tel: 1-877-340-5675
Eisenbrand Inc. http://www.eisenbran.com/
4100 Spencer Street email: wood@eisenbran.com
Torrance CA 90503
Orders: (800)258-2587
Information: (310)542-3576
Fax: (310)542-2857
Hibdon Hardwood www.hibdonhardwood.com
1406 N. Broadway email: info@hibdonhardwood.com
St. Louis MO 63102
Tel: (314) 621 7711
Cocobolo Inc. http://www.cocoboloinc.com/
2454 Madrid Ave.
Safety Harbor, FL 34695
Tel: (727) 521-0616
Tropical Exotic Hardwoods http://www.anexotichardwood.com/
2579 State Street anexotichardwood@abac.com
Carlsbad, CA 92008-1624
Orders: (888)-434-3031
Fax: (760)434-5423
Info: (760)434-3030
Ironwood by Don http://www.ironwoodbydon.com/
HC70 BOX 3321 email: IRONWOOD@azstarnet.com
SAHUARITA, AZ 85629
Tel: (520) 625-5067
California Walnut Designs http://www.ca-walnutdesigns.com/
12681 Wolf Road email: mk@ca-walnutdesigns.com
Grass Valley, CA 95949
Tel: (530) 268-0203
Fax: (530) 268-8365
Burls and More http://www.thisoldwoodpile.com/
1336 Third Street
Meridian, CA 95957
Tel: (530) 696-BURL (2875)
Fax: (530) 696-2876
The Boone Trading Co. elephant ivory, hippo, mammoth, walrus,
P.O.Box BB warthog
562 Coyote Road
Brinnon, WA 98320
1-206-796-4330
Fax 1-206-796-4511
Arizona Ironwood http://www.arizonaironwood.com.
3310 E. Mescalero bradley@arizonaironwood.com
Vail, AZ 85641
Tel: 520-762-0883
Penn State Industries psind@pennstateind.com
Tel: (800) 377-7297 E-mail
sind@pennstateind.com
Fax: (215) 676-7603
Exotic Hardwoods http://home.tct.net/exoticwood/
Stu's Exotic Woods nyfmaker@tct.net
63 D'Andrea Trail
Sarnia, ON N7S 6H3 (Caters to knifemakers)
Canada
Tel: (519) 383-7610
Abrasives
Jantz Supply http://www.jantzsupply.com/
P.O. Box 584 email: jantz@brightok.net
309 West Main
Davis, OK 73030
Order Line: 800-351-8900
Phone: 580-369-2316
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877
Fax: 520-537-8066
Order Line: 800-972-1192
Sheffield Knifemakers Supply Inc
PO Box 741107
Orange City, FL 32774-1107
cust serv 1-904-775-6453
fax 1-904-774-5754
Texas Knifemaker's Supply http://www.siteblazer.net/texasknife/
10649 Haddington #180 email: jimll@hal-pc.org
Houston, TX 77043
Phone: 713/461-8632
Toll Free: 888-461-8632
Fax: 713/461-8221
Tru-Grit http://www.trugrit.com/
760 E. Francis St. N email: Trugrit1@aol.com
Ontario, CA 91761
Sales & Technical Support: 909-923-4116
Outside of California (orders only: 800-532-3336)
Information - Trugrit1@aol.com
Koval http://www.kmg.org/kovalknives/index.html
5819 Zarley Street Suite A
P.O. Box 492
New Albany, Ohio 43054 USA
Ph. (800) 556-4837
In Ohio (614)855-0777
Fax (614) 855-0945
Pop Knives and Supplies
James Poplin
103 Oak St.
Washington GA 30673
Tel: 706-678-5408
G.L. PEARCE ABRASIVE CO.
RD #5 BOX 108
PUNXSUTAWNEY, PA 15767
Orders: 1-800-938-0021
Information: 1-814-938-2379
Steven Bader & Co.
10 Charles St. (P.O. Box 297)
Valley Falls, NY 12185
Tel. (518) 753-4456
Fax (518) 753-4962
Industrial Abrasives Co. http://www.industrialabrasives.com
642 N. Eighth St. sales@industrialabrasives.com
P.O. Box 14955 wholesale@industrialabrasives.com
Reading, PA 19612
1-800-428-2222 sales
1-800-451-1861 wholesale
(610) 378-4868 fax
Tool Suppliers drill bits, milling, handtools, etc
WW Grainger http://www.wwgrainger.com/index.htm
email: postoffice@grainger.com
Locations - http://www.wwgrainger.com/cgi-bin/wwgc_locator
Wholesale Tool Co. http://www.wttool.com/
Michigan 800-521-3420 Personal experience; priced well, in stock
Indiana 800-551-2251
Massachusetts 800-343-1008
North Carolina 800-438-3580
Oklahoma 800-331-4075
Florida 800-237-4689
Texas 800-231-4585
MSC Industrial Supply Co. http://www.mscdirect.com
Call: (800) 645-7270
Fax: (800) 255-5067
See website for locations
Harbor Freight http://www.harborfreight.com/
US & Canada 800-423-2567
International 1-805-388-3000
Locations: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/retailstores/index.html
Grizzly Industrial Inc. http://www.grizzlyindustrial.com/
Customer Service Questions: csr@grizzlyindustrial.com
Technical Support Questions: techsupport@grizzlyindustrial.com
Tel: 1-800-523-4777
Enco http://www.use-enco.com
Tel: 800-873-3626
Fax: 1-800-965-5857
J&L Industrial Supply
Tel: 800 521 9520
IGF Industrial Supply Company http://www.igfsupply.com
101 Coin St. at I35W
Ft. Worth, TX 76140
Tel: 800-657-8925
Micro-mart http://www.micromark.com/
340 Snyder Avenue email: micromark@att.net
Berkeley Heights, NJ 07922-1595
Order Tel: 1-800-225-1066
or 908-464-2984
Wihatools, Inc http://www.wihatools.com/
email: cservice@wihatools.com
Distributors: http://www.wihatools.com/distlink.htm
Tel: 800-494-6104
Fax: 800-494-7456
Miscellaneous Hardware, Adhesives, Services, etc.
~small screws~
R.B. Johnson http://www.kmg.org/rbjohnson/index.html
P.O. Box #11
Clearwater, Minnesota 55320
Tel: (320) 558-6128
Pop Knife Supply
Tel: 706-678-5408
Micro Fasteners http://www.microfasteners.com/
110 Hillcrest Road
Flemington, NJ 08822
Phone: (800) 892-6917
In NJ: (908) 806-4050
Fax: (908) 788-2607
Small Parts Inc. http://www.smallparts.com/
13980 N.W. 58th Court
P.O. Box 4650
Miami Lakes, FL 33014-0650
Tel: 800.220.4242
Fax: 1.800.423.9009
Jeweler's Supply
Swest Inc. http://www.swestinc.com/
Dallas branch~ email@swestinc.com
11090 N. Stemmons Frwy ATLANTA GA
PO Box 59389 5805-A Peachtree Corners E
Dallas, TX 75229-1389 Norcross GA 30092-2414
Seattle branch~
4th & Pike Bldg
1424 4th Ave Ste 608
Seattle WA 98101-2217
Orders: 1-800-527-5057
Fax: 1-800-441-5162
Rio Grande http://www.riogrande.com/
7500 Bluewater Road NW
Albuquerque, NM 87121-1962
Tel: 800-545-6566
Fax: 800-965-2329
~small screws, titanium, G10, carbon fiber, pocket clips, etc~
Halpern Titanium http://www.halperntitanium.com/
14 Maxwell Road
Monson, MA 01057 specializing in Titanium for Knifemakers
Tel: (888) 283-8627
Fax: (413) 289-2372
Pivots, hardened 440C
Rick Hinderer email: RHind64@aol.com
Tel: 216-263 0962 leave message or fax
~rare earth magnets~
Lee Valley and Veritas http://www.leevalley.com/
12 East River Street
Ogdensburg, NY 13669-6780
1-800-267-8735
In Canada:
Lee Valley and Veritas
1090 Morrison Drive
Ottawa, Ontario K2A 1T4
Canada
1-800-267-8761
Recovering of Contact wheels http://www.clarkeroller.com
repair of worn or damaged contact wheels
Clarke Roller and Rubber
6225 Kennedy Rd.
Mississauga, Ontario Canada
L5T 2S8
Tel: 905 564 3215
Fax: 905 564 2192
Bluing
Doug Turnbull Restoration http://gunshop.com/dougt.htm
6680 Route 5 & 20
Bloomfield, NY 14469
Phone: (716) 657-6338
Adhesives
Brownells http://www.brownells.com
Acraglas Kit 1A07F80 (1lb) Stock No. 081-003-002
Microbed Epoxy Stock No.594-600-000
200 South Front Street
Montezuma, Iowa 50171
Orders: (515) 623-4000
Tech Support: (515) 623-5401
General Office: (515) 623-5401
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877
Fax: 520-537-8066
Order Line: 800-972-1192
Golfsmith http://www.golfsmith.com
Tel: 800-815-3873
512-837-4810 Shafting epoxy
Small tools
Micro-Tools http://www.micro-tools.com/
Fargo Enterprises, Inc.
P.O. Box 6505
Vacaville, CA 95696-6505
Tel: 707.446.1120
Fax: 707.446.3319
Micro-mart http://www.micromark.com/
340 Snyder Avenue email: micromark@att.net
Berkeley Heights, NJ 07922-1595
Order Tel: 1-800-225-1066
or 908-464-2984
Hydraulic Press
Swain Spring Service
contact: Jeff Carlisle
Great Falls, MT 59404
Tel: 800-378-1246
Heat Treating
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877
Fax: 520-537-8066
Order Line: 800-972-1192 Air-hardened steel only (stainless)
Texas Knifemaker's Supply http://www.siteblazer.net/texasknife/
10649 Haddington #180 email: jimll@hal-pc.org
Houston, TX 77043 Bead blasting
Phone: 713/461-8632 Deep cryogenic tempering (-300 degrees F)
Toll Free: 888-461-8632 Double foil wrap
Fax: 713/461-8221 Air-hardened steel only (stainless)
Paul Bos
1900 Weld Blvd.
El Cajon, CA 92020
Tel: (619)562-2370 Air-hardened steel only (stainless)
Howard Clark email: howard@mvforge.com
Morgan Valley Forge
115 35th Place
Runnells, IA 50237 carbon steels
Gerome Weinand GMW knives@aol.comm
carbon steel up to 24 inches
Allied Heat Treat Ltd
7521 Tranmere Dr
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada L5S 1L4
Tel: 905 677 8000
Leather and Leather Working
Wickett & Craig of America Inc. http://www.wickett-craig.com
120 Cooper Road
Curwensville, PA 16833
Tel: 1-800-TANNERY
Fax: 814-236-3333
Hermann Oak Leather http://www.hermannoakleather.com
4050 North First Street
St. Louis, MO 63147
Tel: 1-800-325-7950
Fax: 314-421-6152
Weaver Leather
1-800-932-8371
Charles L. Hardtke Inc.
11040 Argal Ct
El Paso, TX 79935-3712
Tel: 915-590-0088 also carry sharkskin, alligator, ostrich, kangaroo
Veteran Leather
1-800-221-7565
The Hide and Leather House
1-800-4-LEATHR
The Leather Factory
1-800-433-3201
Westfield Tanning Company (WesTan Leather)
360 Church St
Westfield, PA 16950-1593
Tel: 814-367-5951
Muir and McDonald
1-800-547-1299
Goliger Leather Company Inc.
1-800-423-2329
1-888-44-HIDES
GMT (Lambskin)
1-800-992-1650
Caldwell Moser Leather Company
1-800-874-1167
Ebinger Brothers Leather Company Inc.
1-800-343-8120
Harvey J. Boutin & Son
1-510-569-6100
Triple C Leather Company Inc.
1-800-624-7642
Bowden Leather Company
8225 Doniphan Dr
Anthony, TX 79821
1-915-877-1557
Stevenson-Paxton Sales
1-800-648-1622
John Fong Leather Company Inc. (Exotics only)
1-415-441-3519
Siegel of California (They have mostly European Leather)
1-800-862-8956
Mid-Continent Leather Sales Company
1-800-926-2061
Demers Leather Sales Inc.
680 Lisbon St
Lewiston, ME 04240
1-207-782-1298 Ask for Ron or Norman
Sal's Leathers
101 S Coombs St # F
Napa, CA 94559
1-707-252-8000
S-T Leather Company
1-800-846-0060
Gallun Leathers LLC
1-800-506-8453
Garlin Neumann Leathers Company Inc. (Buffalo and Exotics)
66 River Rd # D
Hudson, NH 03051
1-603-595-6319
Texas Wholesale Leather
1-800-477-9923
Walter L. Johnson Company
1-800-955-9649
T.L. Trading (this is a division of Tandy Leather
Have minimum orders.
by the bundle pallet or truckload
1-817-568-5211
Moscow Hide and Fur http://www.hideandfur.com/
PO Box 8918
Moscow, Idaho 83843
Tel: 208-882-0601
Fax: 208-882-5715
Scrimshanders
Kyle Duncan
2680 Lakeshore Drive
Applegate, Michigan 48401
Tel: 810-622-9738
Bob Hergert http://www.scrimshander.com
12 Geer Circle email: hergert@scrimshander.com
Port Orford, OR 97465
Tel
541)-332-3010
Scrimshaw Connection http://www.scrimcon.com/
P.O. Box 882733 email: scrimshaw@scrimcon.com
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel: 888-771-0153
Fax: 970-870-3352
The Webshander http://www.scrimshaw.net/
Mark Thogerson email: mark@scrimshaw.net
4541 Wyatt St. SW
Grandville, MI 49418
Tel: (616) 532-6994
Kristen Barndt http://home.ptd.net/~karleil/
P.O. Box 614 email: karleil@ptdprolog.net
Gilbert, PA 18331
Lori Ristinen http://www.digitmaster.com/mnpro/lori/
14256 County Highway 45 email: grist@wcta.net
Menahga, MN 56464
Mary W. Bailey http://members.aol.com/Mbscrim/scrim.htm
email: Mbscrim@aol.com
Very nice site
Scrimshaw and Custom knives http://www.scrimart.u.se/
email: viveca@scrimart.u.se ~or~
Fax: 46 (0)21 358778 anders@scrimart.u.se
Jessie Ghere
Sapulpa Ok
Tel: 918-299-0283
Sandra Brady
Tel: 419-866-0435
Sam McDowell
Tel: 408-624-6787
Linda Karst
Tel: 210-367-3350
Russ Western
P.O. Box 1070
Sterling, Alaska 99672
Tel: 907-260-6546
Engravers
Ron Nott
P O Box 281
105 Mountain St.
Summerdale, PA 17093
Tel: (717) 732-2763
Brooks Burt http://www.angelfire.com/wi/brooksburt/
2215 South Maple Ave #432 email: engraver@tznet.com
Marshfield, WI 54449
Tel: (715) 389-2310
Billy Bates WWW.angelfire.com/al/billybates
Billy Bates R.N. email: BBRN@aol.com
2302 Winthrop Dr. SW
Decatur, AL 35603
Phone: (256)355-3690
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C Wilkins
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"We sharpened the points of our bayonets, and gave a razor-edge to our bowies, that the extermination we intended should be sudden and complete."
--1861, Henry Morton Stanley, in Arkansas as the Civil War began.
[This message has been edited by C L Wilkins (edited 12-10-2000).]
Knifemaking Supply Houses
general knifemaking supplies - kit blades, handle material, hardware, grinders,
buffing compound, etc.
Downie Knives downieknives.downie.com
10076 Estate Dr.
Port Franks, Ontario, Canada N0M2L0
Tel: 519.243.2290
Jantz Supply http://www.jantzsupply.com/
P.O. Box 584 email: jantz@brightok.net
309 West Main
Davis, OK 73030
Order Line: 800-351-8900
Phone: 580-369-2316
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877
Fax: 520-537-8066
Order Line: 800-972-1192
Sheffield Knifemakers Supply Inc
PO Box 741107
Orange City, FL 32774-1107
cust serv 1-904-775-6453
fax 1-904-774-5754
Texas Knifemaker's Supply http://www.texasknife.com
10649 Haddington #180 email: jimll@hal-pc.org
Houston, TX 77043
Phone: 713/461-8632
Toll Free: 888-461-8632
Fax: 713/461-8221
Tru-Grit http://www.trugrit.com/
760 E. Francis St. N email: Trugrit1@aol.com
Ontario, CA 91761
Sales & Technical Support: 909-923-4116
Outside of California (orders only: 800-532-3336)
Information - Trugrit1@aol.com
Koval http://www.kmg.org/kovalknives/index.html
5819 Zarley Street Suite A
P.O. Box 492
New Albany, Ohio 43054 USA
Ph. (800) 556-4837
In Ohio (614)855-0777
Fax (614) 855-0945
Pop Knives and Supplies
James Poplin
103 Oak St.
Washington GA 30673
Tel: 706-678-5408
Universal Agencies Inc. http://www.uai.org ~or~ http://www.knifesupplies.com
4690 South Old Peachtree Rd. Suite C email: info@uai.org
Norcross, GA 30071-1517
Tel: 678.969.9147
Fax: 678.969.9169
Order Tel. 1.800.864.7824
Steel
Downie Knives downieknives.downie.com
10076 Estate Dr.
Port Franks, Ontario, Canada N0M2L0
Tel: 519.243.2290 Damasteel, 440C, ATS34 Damascus
Jantz Supply http://www.jantzsupply.com/
P.O. Box 584 email: jantz@brightok.net
309 West Main 440C, ATS34, A2, Damascus, D2, O1, 1095
Davis, OK 73030
Order Line: 800-351-8900
Phone: 580-369-2316
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877 440C, 154CM, ATS34, D2 (mill run)
Fax: 520-537-8066 440C, ATS34, 01 (precision ground)
Order Line: 800-972-1192
Sheffield Knifemakers Supply Inc
PO Box 741107
Orange City, FL 32774-1107
cust serv 1-904-775-6453
fax 1-904-774-5754
Texas Knifemaker's Supply http://www.siteblazer.net/texasknife/
10649 Haddington #180 email: jimll@hal-pc.org
Houston, TX 77043 440C, 440V, 154CM, ATS34, D2,
Phone: 713/461-8632 Damascus billets
Toll Free: 888-461-8632
Fax: 713/461-8221
Tru-Grit http://www.trugrit.com/
760 E. Francis St. N email: Trugrit1@aol.com
Ontario, CA 91761
Sales & Technical Support: 909-923-4116
Outside of California (orders only: 800-532-3336)
Information - Trugrit1@aol.com ATS34 440C Damascus
Koval http://www.kmg.org/kovalknives/index.html
5819 Zarley Street Suite A
P.O. Box 492
New Albany, Ohio 43054 USA
Ph. (800) 556-4837
In Ohio (614)855-0777
Fax (614) 855-0945
Universal Agencies Inc. http://www.uai.org ~or~ http://www.knifesupplies.com
4690 South Old Peachtree Rd. Suite C email: info@uai.org
Norcross, GA 30071-1517 Damascus billets
Tel: 678.969.9147
Fax: 678.969.9169
Order Tel. 1.800.864.7824
Rex Walter email: mailto: rexnpam@thesafety.net
637 Portersville Road 52100 in barstock, $2.00/inch, additional
Ellwood City, PA 16117 $1.00/inch for surface grinding down to
about .100 inch as of 2/1/2000
Admiral Steel http://www.admiralsteel.com
4152 West 123rd Street sales@admiralsteel.com
Alsip, IL 60803 1084, 1095, 5160, O1, A2, D2, 440C, ATS34,
Tel: (800) 323-7055 BG42
Fax: (708) 388-9317
Caffrey Knives http://www.caffreyknives.com
2608 Central Ave. West Damascus and 52100 barstock made per
Great Falls, MT 59404 order.
Tel: 406-727-9102
Swain Spring Service
contact: Jeff Carlisle 5160, 52100 round stock, 15N20 and
Great Falls, MT 59404 nickel strip
Tel: 800-378-1246
Meier Steel http://www.meiersteel.com/
Daryl Meier Damascus
75 Forge Road
Carbondale, IL 62901
Tel: 618-549-3234
Fax: 618-549-6239
Simonich Knives http://www.simonichknives.com/idxtest.htm
Box 278 rob@simonichknives.com
Clancy, Montana 59634
Tel: (406)933-9151 Talonite
Fax: (406)933-8910
Schott Knives http://www.angelfire.com/ct/schottknives/
Ed Schott shtml?Category=
EdwardRSchott@aol.com
CPM3V & CPM420V
Crucible
Bruce Di Vita http://www.crucibleservice.com
1101 Avenue H East
Arlington, TX 76011
(817) 640-7777
(800) 365-1168
Forging Supplies
Centaur Forge Ltd. Web Site: http://www.centaurforge.com/
117 North Spring St.
Post Office Box 340
Burlington, WI 53105-0340
Office: 1-262-763-9175
Orders: 1-800-666-9175
Fax: 1-262-763-8350
NC Tools
Greensboro, NC
1-800-446-6498
Wallace Metal Work email: WalmetaLwk@aol.com
R.D. 1 Blacksmith Lane,
Kempton, PA 19529
Tel: 610.756.3377
Fax: 610.756.3939
Handle Material wood, stabilized wood, mother of pearl, bone,
oosic, ivory, etc
Page Belting Co. : http://www.pagebelting.com/leathspec.html
Request info from Candy Robinson. leather washers for KABAR type knives
(unconfirmed)
Twin Leather Company, Inc leather washers for KABAR type knives
932 North Montello Street
Brockton, MA 02401 USA
Tel. 508 583-3485 or 1 800 205-9813 email: sales@twinleather.com
Mother of Pearl Co. Inc
293 Belden Circle/P.O. Box 445 http://www.knifehandles.com/
Franklin, NC 28734 email: mopco@clickcom.com
Phone: (828) 524-6842
Fax: (828) 369-7809
Anchorage Cutlery http://www.anchoragecutlery.com
1199 E. Dimond Blvd. email: cutlery@artic.net
Anchorage, AK 99515
Phone: (907) 344-1856
Fax: (907) 344-7671
Halpern Titanium http://www.halperntitanium.com/
14 Maxwell Road
Monson, MA 01057 specializing in Titanium for Knifemakers
Tel: (888) 283-8627 G10, carbon fiber
Fax: (413) 289-2372
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877
Fax: 520-537-8066
Order Line: 800-972-1192
Texas Knifemaker's Supply http://www.siteblazer.net/texasknife/
10649 Haddington #180 email: jimll@hal-pc.org
Houston, TX 77043
Phone: 713/461-8632
Toll Free: 888-461-8632
Fax: 713/461-8221
Tru-Grit http://www.trugrit.com/
760 E. Francis St. N email: Trugrit1@aol.com
Ontario, CA 91761
Sales & Technical Support: 909-923-4116
Outside of California (orders only: 800-532-3336)
Information - Trugrit1@aol.com
Universal Agencies Inc. http://www.uai.org ~or~ www.knifesupplies.com
330 Hannaford Drive email: info@uai.org
Roswell, GA 30075-3271
Tel: 770.640.9330
Fax: 770.640.9852
Downie Knives downieknives.downie.com
10076 Estate Dr.
Port Franks, Ontario, Canada N0M2L0
Tel: 519.243.2290
Masecrafts
254 Amity St amber
P.O. Box 423
Meriden CT 06450
1-800-682-5489
Miguel's Desert Ironwood http://www.askpubs.com/wood/Pricing.html
P.O. Box 33368
Riverside, MO 64168
Tel: 1-877-340-5675
Eisenbrand Inc. http://www.eisenbran.com/
4100 Spencer Street email: wood@eisenbran.com
Torrance CA 90503
Orders: (800)258-2587
Information: (310)542-3576
Fax: (310)542-2857
Hibdon Hardwood www.hibdonhardwood.com
1406 N. Broadway email: info@hibdonhardwood.com
St. Louis MO 63102
Tel: (314) 621 7711
Cocobolo Inc. http://www.cocoboloinc.com/
2454 Madrid Ave.
Safety Harbor, FL 34695
Tel: (727) 521-0616
Tropical Exotic Hardwoods http://www.anexotichardwood.com/
2579 State Street anexotichardwood@abac.com
Carlsbad, CA 92008-1624
Orders: (888)-434-3031
Fax: (760)434-5423
Info: (760)434-3030
Ironwood by Don http://www.ironwoodbydon.com/
HC70 BOX 3321 email: IRONWOOD@azstarnet.com
SAHUARITA, AZ 85629
Tel: (520) 625-5067
California Walnut Designs http://www.ca-walnutdesigns.com/
12681 Wolf Road email: mk@ca-walnutdesigns.com
Grass Valley, CA 95949
Tel: (530) 268-0203
Fax: (530) 268-8365
Burls and More http://www.thisoldwoodpile.com/
1336 Third Street
Meridian, CA 95957
Tel: (530) 696-BURL (2875)
Fax: (530) 696-2876
The Boone Trading Co. elephant ivory, hippo, mammoth, walrus,
P.O.Box BB warthog
562 Coyote Road
Brinnon, WA 98320
1-206-796-4330
Fax 1-206-796-4511
Arizona Ironwood http://www.arizonaironwood.com.
3310 E. Mescalero bradley@arizonaironwood.com
Vail, AZ 85641
Tel: 520-762-0883
Penn State Industries psind@pennstateind.com
Tel: (800) 377-7297 E-mail

Fax: (215) 676-7603
Exotic Hardwoods http://home.tct.net/exoticwood/
Stu's Exotic Woods nyfmaker@tct.net
63 D'Andrea Trail
Sarnia, ON N7S 6H3 (Caters to knifemakers)
Canada
Tel: (519) 383-7610
Abrasives
Jantz Supply http://www.jantzsupply.com/
P.O. Box 584 email: jantz@brightok.net
309 West Main
Davis, OK 73030
Order Line: 800-351-8900
Phone: 580-369-2316
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877
Fax: 520-537-8066
Order Line: 800-972-1192
Sheffield Knifemakers Supply Inc
PO Box 741107
Orange City, FL 32774-1107
cust serv 1-904-775-6453
fax 1-904-774-5754
Texas Knifemaker's Supply http://www.siteblazer.net/texasknife/
10649 Haddington #180 email: jimll@hal-pc.org
Houston, TX 77043
Phone: 713/461-8632
Toll Free: 888-461-8632
Fax: 713/461-8221
Tru-Grit http://www.trugrit.com/
760 E. Francis St. N email: Trugrit1@aol.com
Ontario, CA 91761
Sales & Technical Support: 909-923-4116
Outside of California (orders only: 800-532-3336)
Information - Trugrit1@aol.com
Koval http://www.kmg.org/kovalknives/index.html
5819 Zarley Street Suite A
P.O. Box 492
New Albany, Ohio 43054 USA
Ph. (800) 556-4837
In Ohio (614)855-0777
Fax (614) 855-0945
Pop Knives and Supplies
James Poplin
103 Oak St.
Washington GA 30673
Tel: 706-678-5408
G.L. PEARCE ABRASIVE CO.
RD #5 BOX 108
PUNXSUTAWNEY, PA 15767
Orders: 1-800-938-0021
Information: 1-814-938-2379
Steven Bader & Co.
10 Charles St. (P.O. Box 297)
Valley Falls, NY 12185
Tel. (518) 753-4456
Fax (518) 753-4962
Industrial Abrasives Co. http://www.industrialabrasives.com
642 N. Eighth St. sales@industrialabrasives.com
P.O. Box 14955 wholesale@industrialabrasives.com
Reading, PA 19612
1-800-428-2222 sales
1-800-451-1861 wholesale
(610) 378-4868 fax
Tool Suppliers drill bits, milling, handtools, etc
WW Grainger http://www.wwgrainger.com/index.htm
email: postoffice@grainger.com
Locations - http://www.wwgrainger.com/cgi-bin/wwgc_locator
Wholesale Tool Co. http://www.wttool.com/
Michigan 800-521-3420 Personal experience; priced well, in stock
Indiana 800-551-2251
Massachusetts 800-343-1008
North Carolina 800-438-3580
Oklahoma 800-331-4075
Florida 800-237-4689
Texas 800-231-4585
MSC Industrial Supply Co. http://www.mscdirect.com
Call: (800) 645-7270
Fax: (800) 255-5067
See website for locations
Harbor Freight http://www.harborfreight.com/
US & Canada 800-423-2567
International 1-805-388-3000
Locations: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/retailstores/index.html
Grizzly Industrial Inc. http://www.grizzlyindustrial.com/
Customer Service Questions: csr@grizzlyindustrial.com
Technical Support Questions: techsupport@grizzlyindustrial.com
Tel: 1-800-523-4777
Enco http://www.use-enco.com
Tel: 800-873-3626
Fax: 1-800-965-5857
J&L Industrial Supply
Tel: 800 521 9520
IGF Industrial Supply Company http://www.igfsupply.com
101 Coin St. at I35W
Ft. Worth, TX 76140
Tel: 800-657-8925
Micro-mart http://www.micromark.com/
340 Snyder Avenue email: micromark@att.net
Berkeley Heights, NJ 07922-1595
Order Tel: 1-800-225-1066
or 908-464-2984
Wihatools, Inc http://www.wihatools.com/
email: cservice@wihatools.com
Distributors: http://www.wihatools.com/distlink.htm
Tel: 800-494-6104
Fax: 800-494-7456
Miscellaneous Hardware, Adhesives, Services, etc.
~small screws~
R.B. Johnson http://www.kmg.org/rbjohnson/index.html
P.O. Box #11
Clearwater, Minnesota 55320
Tel: (320) 558-6128
Pop Knife Supply
Tel: 706-678-5408
Micro Fasteners http://www.microfasteners.com/
110 Hillcrest Road
Flemington, NJ 08822
Phone: (800) 892-6917
In NJ: (908) 806-4050
Fax: (908) 788-2607
Small Parts Inc. http://www.smallparts.com/
13980 N.W. 58th Court
P.O. Box 4650
Miami Lakes, FL 33014-0650
Tel: 800.220.4242
Fax: 1.800.423.9009
Jeweler's Supply
Swest Inc. http://www.swestinc.com/
Dallas branch~ email@swestinc.com
11090 N. Stemmons Frwy ATLANTA GA
PO Box 59389 5805-A Peachtree Corners E
Dallas, TX 75229-1389 Norcross GA 30092-2414
Seattle branch~
4th & Pike Bldg
1424 4th Ave Ste 608
Seattle WA 98101-2217
Orders: 1-800-527-5057
Fax: 1-800-441-5162
Rio Grande http://www.riogrande.com/
7500 Bluewater Road NW
Albuquerque, NM 87121-1962
Tel: 800-545-6566
Fax: 800-965-2329
~small screws, titanium, G10, carbon fiber, pocket clips, etc~
Halpern Titanium http://www.halperntitanium.com/
14 Maxwell Road
Monson, MA 01057 specializing in Titanium for Knifemakers
Tel: (888) 283-8627
Fax: (413) 289-2372
Pivots, hardened 440C
Rick Hinderer email: RHind64@aol.com
Tel: 216-263 0962 leave message or fax
~rare earth magnets~
Lee Valley and Veritas http://www.leevalley.com/
12 East River Street
Ogdensburg, NY 13669-6780
1-800-267-8735
In Canada:
Lee Valley and Veritas
1090 Morrison Drive
Ottawa, Ontario K2A 1T4
Canada
1-800-267-8761
Recovering of Contact wheels http://www.clarkeroller.com
repair of worn or damaged contact wheels
Clarke Roller and Rubber
6225 Kennedy Rd.
Mississauga, Ontario Canada
L5T 2S8
Tel: 905 564 3215
Fax: 905 564 2192
Bluing
Doug Turnbull Restoration http://gunshop.com/dougt.htm
6680 Route 5 & 20
Bloomfield, NY 14469
Phone: (716) 657-6338
Adhesives
Brownells http://www.brownells.com
Acraglas Kit 1A07F80 (1lb) Stock No. 081-003-002
Microbed Epoxy Stock No.594-600-000
200 South Front Street
Montezuma, Iowa 50171
Orders: (515) 623-4000
Tech Support: (515) 623-5401
General Office: (515) 623-5401
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877
Fax: 520-537-8066
Order Line: 800-972-1192
Golfsmith http://www.golfsmith.com
Tel: 800-815-3873
512-837-4810 Shafting epoxy
Small tools
Micro-Tools http://www.micro-tools.com/
Fargo Enterprises, Inc.
P.O. Box 6505
Vacaville, CA 95696-6505
Tel: 707.446.1120
Fax: 707.446.3319
Micro-mart http://www.micromark.com/
340 Snyder Avenue email: micromark@att.net
Berkeley Heights, NJ 07922-1595
Order Tel: 1-800-225-1066
or 908-464-2984
Hydraulic Press
Swain Spring Service
contact: Jeff Carlisle
Great Falls, MT 59404
Tel: 800-378-1246
Heat Treating
K & G Supply http://www.knifeandgun.com/
P.O. Box 458 Mail Stop I. email: sales@knifeandgun.com
Lakeside Arizona 85929-0458 email: info@knifeandgun.com
Information (520) 537-8877
Fax: 520-537-8066
Order Line: 800-972-1192 Air-hardened steel only (stainless)
Texas Knifemaker's Supply http://www.siteblazer.net/texasknife/
10649 Haddington #180 email: jimll@hal-pc.org
Houston, TX 77043 Bead blasting
Phone: 713/461-8632 Deep cryogenic tempering (-300 degrees F)
Toll Free: 888-461-8632 Double foil wrap
Fax: 713/461-8221 Air-hardened steel only (stainless)
Paul Bos
1900 Weld Blvd.
El Cajon, CA 92020
Tel: (619)562-2370 Air-hardened steel only (stainless)
Howard Clark email: howard@mvforge.com
Morgan Valley Forge
115 35th Place
Runnells, IA 50237 carbon steels
Gerome Weinand GMW knives@aol.comm
carbon steel up to 24 inches
Allied Heat Treat Ltd
7521 Tranmere Dr
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada L5S 1L4
Tel: 905 677 8000
Leather and Leather Working
Wickett & Craig of America Inc. http://www.wickett-craig.com
120 Cooper Road
Curwensville, PA 16833
Tel: 1-800-TANNERY
Fax: 814-236-3333
Hermann Oak Leather http://www.hermannoakleather.com
4050 North First Street
St. Louis, MO 63147
Tel: 1-800-325-7950
Fax: 314-421-6152
Weaver Leather
1-800-932-8371
Charles L. Hardtke Inc.
11040 Argal Ct
El Paso, TX 79935-3712
Tel: 915-590-0088 also carry sharkskin, alligator, ostrich, kangaroo
Veteran Leather
1-800-221-7565
The Hide and Leather House
1-800-4-LEATHR
The Leather Factory
1-800-433-3201
Westfield Tanning Company (WesTan Leather)
360 Church St
Westfield, PA 16950-1593
Tel: 814-367-5951
Muir and McDonald
1-800-547-1299
Goliger Leather Company Inc.
1-800-423-2329
1-888-44-HIDES
GMT (Lambskin)
1-800-992-1650
Caldwell Moser Leather Company
1-800-874-1167
Ebinger Brothers Leather Company Inc.
1-800-343-8120
Harvey J. Boutin & Son
1-510-569-6100
Triple C Leather Company Inc.
1-800-624-7642
Bowden Leather Company
8225 Doniphan Dr
Anthony, TX 79821
1-915-877-1557
Stevenson-Paxton Sales
1-800-648-1622
John Fong Leather Company Inc. (Exotics only)
1-415-441-3519
Siegel of California (They have mostly European Leather)
1-800-862-8956
Mid-Continent Leather Sales Company
1-800-926-2061
Demers Leather Sales Inc.
680 Lisbon St
Lewiston, ME 04240
1-207-782-1298 Ask for Ron or Norman
Sal's Leathers
101 S Coombs St # F
Napa, CA 94559
1-707-252-8000
S-T Leather Company
1-800-846-0060
Gallun Leathers LLC
1-800-506-8453
Garlin Neumann Leathers Company Inc. (Buffalo and Exotics)
66 River Rd # D
Hudson, NH 03051
1-603-595-6319
Texas Wholesale Leather
1-800-477-9923
Walter L. Johnson Company
1-800-955-9649
T.L. Trading (this is a division of Tandy Leather
Have minimum orders.
by the bundle pallet or truckload
1-817-568-5211
Moscow Hide and Fur http://www.hideandfur.com/
PO Box 8918
Moscow, Idaho 83843
Tel: 208-882-0601
Fax: 208-882-5715
Scrimshanders
Kyle Duncan
2680 Lakeshore Drive
Applegate, Michigan 48401
Tel: 810-622-9738
Bob Hergert http://www.scrimshander.com
12 Geer Circle email: hergert@scrimshander.com
Port Orford, OR 97465
Tel

Scrimshaw Connection http://www.scrimcon.com/
P.O. Box 882733 email: scrimshaw@scrimcon.com
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel: 888-771-0153
Fax: 970-870-3352
The Webshander http://www.scrimshaw.net/
Mark Thogerson email: mark@scrimshaw.net
4541 Wyatt St. SW
Grandville, MI 49418
Tel: (616) 532-6994
Kristen Barndt http://home.ptd.net/~karleil/
P.O. Box 614 email: karleil@ptdprolog.net
Gilbert, PA 18331
Lori Ristinen http://www.digitmaster.com/mnpro/lori/
14256 County Highway 45 email: grist@wcta.net
Menahga, MN 56464
Mary W. Bailey http://members.aol.com/Mbscrim/scrim.htm
email: Mbscrim@aol.com
Very nice site
Scrimshaw and Custom knives http://www.scrimart.u.se/
email: viveca@scrimart.u.se ~or~
Fax: 46 (0)21 358778 anders@scrimart.u.se
Jessie Ghere
Sapulpa Ok
Tel: 918-299-0283
Sandra Brady
Tel: 419-866-0435
Sam McDowell
Tel: 408-624-6787
Linda Karst
Tel: 210-367-3350
Russ Western
P.O. Box 1070
Sterling, Alaska 99672
Tel: 907-260-6546
Engravers
Ron Nott
P O Box 281
105 Mountain St.
Summerdale, PA 17093
Tel: (717) 732-2763
Brooks Burt http://www.angelfire.com/wi/brooksburt/
2215 South Maple Ave #432 email: engraver@tznet.com
Marshfield, WI 54449
Tel: (715) 389-2310
Billy Bates WWW.angelfire.com/al/billybates
Billy Bates R.N. email: BBRN@aol.com
2302 Winthrop Dr. SW
Decatur, AL 35603
Phone: (256)355-3690
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C Wilkins
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"We sharpened the points of our bayonets, and gave a razor-edge to our bowies, that the extermination we intended should be sudden and complete."
--1861, Henry Morton Stanley, in Arkansas as the Civil War began.
[This message has been edited by C L Wilkins (edited 12-10-2000).]