Surefire E-W13 Dart, anyone have one?

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I really like the look of the Surefire E-W13 Dart, but was wondering if anyone has feedback on this knife?

http://www.surefire.com/EW-13

I like the aluminum frame and bar lock, and drop-point blade, the only thing I don't like about the knife is the price. Anyone have recommendations for a replacement for the Surefire?

Thanks for any help or advice!
 
IMO , like most Surefire products , overpriced for what it is.

I would say overhyped but I have not heard of anyone raving about this knife. I'm sure it's a decent knife but there are a whole slew of knives in that price range that I would buy/recommend/want before this one.

Tostig
 
Surefire's knives are ludicrously overpriced across the board, at least from what I've seen.

You might be interested in the Hogue EX-01 if you're looking for another blade with an aluminum handle and 154CM blade. I got mine for around 110$ and it's one hell of a knife. The Manix 2 also features 154cm blade steel, albeit with G10 handles. It's very solid, too, and cheaper at around 80$. Cheaper still is the Kershaw RAM that's probably closer in size to that surefire overall, with aluminum handles and a 14c28 blade at around 60$. Again a very good knife.
 
Cool!! Thanks for all the help. The Kershaw Ram looks great for the price. Also like the Hogue, did noy even know they were making knives now.

Surefire's knives are ludicrously overpriced across the board, at least from what I've seen.

You might be interested in the Hogue EX-01 if you're looking for another blade with an aluminum handle and 154CM blade. I got mine for around 110$ and it's one hell of a knife. The Manix 2 also features 154cm blade steel, albeit with G10 handles. It's very solid, too, and cheaper at around 80$. Cheaper still is the Kershaw RAM that's probably closer in size to that surefire overall, with aluminum handles and a 14c28 blade at around 60$. Again a very good knife.
 
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I think Surefire knives are more popular amoungest the gun crowd. Knife guys generally know they're better buys for the money; where as a gun guy looking for a knife just knows Surefire puts out a great reliable product (weapons lights and such) that they stand behind, so why not buy a knife from them. Plus most their models are in some way geared towards firearms (built in wrenches and so forth).

I'm sure their knives are top notch in quality, but in my opinion they're made more for firearm enthusiast, not knife enthusiast.

I'd like to try out a Crank, but can't bring myself to throw down the cash.

-sh00ter
 
I think Surefire knives are more popular amoungest the gun crowd. Knife guys generally know they're better buys for the money; where as a gun guy looking for a knife just knows Surefire puts out a great reliable product (weapons lights and such) that they stand behind, so why not buy a knife from them. Plus most their models are in some way geared towards firearms (built in wrenches and so forth).

I'm sure their knives are top notch in quality, but in my opinion they're made more for firearm enthusiast, not knife enthusiast.

I'd like to try out a Crank, but can't bring myself to throw down the cash.

-sh00ter


I think your right about about being geared towards "the gun crowed". I really like the Surefire Dart, but I think going with the Kershaw RAM was a much better buy for the money.

I will say that the Surefire, no questions asked warranty is great! I have used it two times in the past with flashlight parts, and they sent me replacements ASAP at no cost to me.
 
I managed to get a Crank on an auction site at around $100. I really wanted to try it out. It's an interesting design but not as good as many other choices priced less. The fit and finish was good but it wasn't particularly sharp. It's chisel ground and was relatively easy to sharpen so that really wasn't an issue. The blade is also only about 2.5 inches not 3 inches. (As a plus I managed to get it in a Federal building.) The cord cutter was dull as as abutter knife and almost impossible to sharpen. The ergos don't work well for me. The cord cutter digs into my palm when I use the knife hard. Finally, it rides really high when using the pocket clip due to the wrench.

I'll keep the Crank it because it's unique and I rarely sell knives. The Dart doesn't have the wrench or cord cutter so that should eliminate those issues. The Dart is probably a decent knife but given my experience with the Crank I wouldn't buy one unless you can get it for around $75.
 
I think your right about about being geared towards "the gun crowed". I really like the Surefire Dart, but I think going with the Kershaw RAM was a much better buy for the money.

I will say that the Surefire, no questions asked warranty is great! I have used it two times in the past with flashlight parts, and they sent me replacements ASAP at no cost to me.

The RAM is a great knife and probably my favorite Kershaw. Their customer service is second to none too. Great knife, great company, you will not be disappointed:thumbup:

I managed to get a Crank on an auction site at around $100. I really wanted to try it out. It's an interesting design but not as good as many other choices priced less. The fit and finish was good but it wasn't particularly sharp. It's chisel ground and was relatively easy to sharpen so that really wasn't an issue. The blade is also only about 2.5 inches not 3 inches. (As a plus I managed to get it in a Federal building.) The cord cutter was dull as as abutter knife and almost impossible to sharpen. The ergos don't work well for me. The cord cutter digs into my palm when I use the knife hard. Finally, it rides really high when using the pocket clip due to the wrench.

I'll keep the Crank it because it's unique and I rarely sell knives. The Dart doesn't have the wrench or cord cutter so that should eliminate those issues. The Dart is probably a decent knife but given my experience with the Crank I wouldn't buy one unless you can get it for around $75.

That's a bummer to hear, well, it helps me, I can cross it off my list.

-sh00ter
 
I managed to get a Crank on an auction site at around $100. I really wanted to try it out. It's an interesting design but not as good as many other choices priced less. The fit and finish was good but it wasn't particularly sharp. It's chisel ground and was relatively easy to sharpen so that really wasn't an issue. The blade is also only about 2.5 inches not 3 inches. (As a plus I managed to get it in a Federal building.) The cord cutter was dull as as abutter knife and almost impossible to sharpen. The ergos don't work well for me. The cord cutter digs into my palm when I use the knife hard. Finally, it rides really high when using the pocket clip due to the wrench.

I'll keep the Crank it because it's unique and I rarely sell knives. The Dart doesn't have the wrench or cord cutter so that should eliminate those issues. The Dart is probably a decent knife but given my experience with the Crank I wouldn't buy one unless you can get it for around $75.

Thanks, that's good too know. At least you did not pay full price.
 
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