Survival kill for food, what would you do?

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Let's say that you have been in some incident that has left you alone and with minimal gear in the wilds. You are not sure how long you will be on your own. It is fall, the days are warm, but it drops just below freezing at night.

You have made a LARGE kill in your effort to feed yourself. Now you find yourself just after noon with a LARGE animal to process. Let's assume you have downed either a cow elk or moose.

How do you go about processing it and how do you preserve the meat?

Remember, you have minimal gear, and are in the wilds for an undetermined amount of time.

As with Greg's "improvisation" threads post your response before reading others.

Thanks!
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Plainsman :)
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Well first off if I killed an elk or a moose, I am probably also in large bear territory, and I want to tangle with one of them as much as I want to be stranded, maybe less. So I remove what meat I can carry and move away from the kill. Then I make a small fire and jerk the meat, this takes time so I do not want to be near where I killed the animal. Later possibly I can return to get more meat for provisions, after making sure no animals have taken over my kill.

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Lee

LIfe is too important to be taken seriously. Oscar Wilde
 
First i wouyld use a sharp rock to use a a knife and take all the meat possible and leave the corpse there. I would get just as far away from the corpse as possible. Then i would either sun dry or jerky the meat with smoke or over a hot bed of coals. Geoff.
 
How do you jerk meat? Geeze... for a sincere question, it certainly sounds bad *L*

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When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty.

 
Assuming I have a knife to begin hacking at this pile of meat with, I think I have a few ideas...

I would move camp somewhat near the animal, not right on top, in case other predators _do_ show up.

I would do my best to remove the meat in longish strips that would be good for about one meal each. These I would hang in a variety of methods, beginning with as far up as I can, preferably on some kinda string, though sticks will work fine if I'm short on cordage. Preferably this will be high enough to keep larger animals out of it.

After I have a decent amoung hung, I'd probably build a smoker. Teepee style structure as large as I feel like making it, but not much smaller than about three or four feet tall. Make racks within it, and build and maintain a small, primarily coal, fire with whatever green wood I think would taste best in my meat.

Putting a signal/cooking whatever fire(s) under where I have the rest of the meat hung wouldn't be a bad idea either, to keep insects away and to lessen small animal losses.

Aside from that, I really can't think of too many other ways to store camp meat... If I had a pot or cooking container, I'd stew as much as I could right off the bat, including the edible organs (maybe especially them...)


Stryver, whose not sure he'd eat that much meat in a year normally...
 
Okay, we've avoided the bears, fought off the wild dogs, and butchered the elk. We have two culinary problems -- cooking the meat for our next meal or two, and preserving the rest. I would probably want to eat at least the liver first, especially if the elk was young, and probably the heart and tongue as well. You should of course check all organ meats for parasites, cysts, or other signs of illness. I don't know what is included in "minimal gear." Ideally, I would slice the liver into thin pieces, dredge the slices in flour, and cook the liver with a little oil along with some onions. Yum! The tongue can be boiled slowly in salt water, with some pepper and vinegar, for ten or twelve hours, allowed to cool, the skin removed, and the tongue sliced nice and thin. Serve the sliced tongue on rye bread with mustard ... oops, I forgot, "minimal gear." You can wash the blood off the heart, trim the fat, and soak the heart in salt water for a couple of hours; then boil it in the salt water for a while -- heart muscle is tough -- and finally slice it into strips and cook it in a little oil until done, about fifteen minutes. I don't have to tell anyone how to cook a steak; knowing how to cook steak is part of the male human genetic heritage. :-) But keep it rare; wild game muscle meat tends to be very lean, and therefore can be very tough if overcooked. The major hazard from undercooked fresh wild game meat is toxoplasmosis. The toxoplasma parasite is generally not harmful; I would guess that 30-40 percent of adult male Americans have toxoplasma antibodies without ever having been sick. The major risk of toxoplasmosis is to the fetus of a pregnant woman during the first trimester, when it can cause serious nervous system damage.

Methods of preserving the meat include salting, smoking, and drying. By the way, the word "jerky" comes from the Peruvian Quechua word ch'arki (spelled "charqui" in Spanish), which means "dried meat." You can salt and smoke (check out the smoked monkey in Doc Ron's video); you can pickle, or salt in salt water; you can smoke in an improvised smoker or over an open fire. Damn, I'm getting hungry.

Again, limits are imposed by your gear. If you are smart, and always have some nice fresh crushed chile peppers with you, then clearly your culinary options are enhanced. It's hard to boil something unless you have -- or can make -- a pot. But there's always something you can do. Once when my wife and I were hiking in the Cordillera Blanca, the group butchered a sheep, heated rocks in a fire until they were red hot, wrapped the pieces of meat with wild onions in fresh leaves, and buried the wrapped meat and the hot stones together in a pit for a few hours. Absolutely heavenly.

Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional. I think that applies particularly to cooking in the wilderness. :-)
 
Great answers guys!
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I'm glad that you picked up on the threat of a bear! I thought I'd have people saying they would try to skin it and bone it out by dark. But most of you understood the underlying danger.

Depending upon what I had with me for tools, the most I would have attempted is the best cuts of meat and a good size piece of the hide. The hide of an animal that size can provide clothing, shelter or bedding.

If in a desperate situation where I needed tools and weapons as well, I would have tried to take a couple of larger bones. But again, this depends upon how quickly I can remove the parts and exit the scene. I don't want to tangle with a bear over a kill!

Animal that size can give one a lot of nutrients, bones for tools and hide for clothes/shelter. But a lot can be wasted quickly in the wrong situation. I.E. heat, or danger from predators.

Thanks for the responses! Good thinking!



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One problem is that the hypothetical conditions require some prior decisions -- especially the decision whether you are going to try to walk out or are going to stay put and wait for rescue. For example, a raw elk hide large enough to be used for shelter is going to be heavy. Would I be better off taking the hide with me, possibly slowing me down, or traveling lighter and faster, and hoping to improvise shelter along the way? How long until a snowfall will make traveling difficult or impossible? Can I afford the time to smoke the meat, tan the hide, do scrimshaw on the bones? Do people know that I am missing, do they have some idea where I am, and will they come looking for me? Do *I* know where I am? How many days' hike until I can find help? Or am I going to build a more permanent shelter and settle in -- for three days? -- for a week? -- for the winter? The use I make of the elk is, I think, going to depend on the answers to questions like these. Each decision means evaluating trade-offs of time, weight, and utility.

Also, if I'm in bear country, I do not think I want to sleep under -- or wrapped up in -- a raw elk hide. :-)

 
I'd remove the two hinds first...then hang them in a tree if one was close enough to the kill...they will crust over in no time ..thus preserving the meat for a number of days to allow me the time to dry the meat. In Africa a good portion of the Cape Buffalo I shot was dried into biltong...the natives just cut small thin strips and hung it to dry...if flies are a problem then smoke could be used to keep them from the meat till it dried.

[This message has been edited by budman (edited 22 December 1999).]
 
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