Survival Knife- Hiking/ Camping/ Backpacking

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Looking for suggestions on a good knife for Hiking/ Camping/ Backpacking. Have a spyderco military and a leatherman wave. Have heard I should take a look at fixed blades. Posted below is info from another part of blade forums.

Preacher Man
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Siguy is right. A survival knife is usually a fixed blade. You can use a folder as a survival knife, but it will never be as strong or dependable as a fixed blade in a survival/emergency situation. They can be used for battoning, but most aren't very useful for chopping. Many survival minded people carry a fixed blade as their primary knife and a folder as a backup / cooking / whittling knife.

This is routinely discussed in the Wilderness and Survival Skills forum, including the hiking/backpacking angle. The Manix is a good choice, but so are the BM Griptillian, CS Voyager, Leatherman Charge Ti, and the Victorinox Hunter and Trailmaster.

In Fixed blades, forget about a hollow-handle knife, unless it is a Chris Reeve. Hollow-handle knives have a tendency to break in your hands when you need them most. In other words, they look good on a wall, but are close to useless in the field. Chris Reeve's are the exception because he makes his hollow handle knives out of a single piece of A-2 steel.

For hiking/backpacking weight and space are issues to consider, probably why you are looking at folding knives. With that in mind consider the following fixed blades: Cold Steel SRK, Cold Steel Master Hunter, or Cold Steel True Flight. (Cold Steel makes good products for a really good price, just like Becker, but Becker Knives are heavier). You can get the SRK (8.2 oz and nearly indestructible) or the Master Hunter (6.4 oz an excellent camp/outdoors knife) from Wholesale hunter for $52.00 and the True Flight (8.5 oz basically an SRK without the false edge, kraton handle, and heat treatmentl) for $18.00.
 
I second the Cold Steel choices. The SRK is my pick because for a knife of it's size, it seems to be the lightest I can find. The Becker equivilants (BK10 & BK7) are great knives, but heavier. The Cold Steel Master Hunter is a bit shorter and lighter than the SRK, worth considering, but the SRK will chop a bit better. Either are suitable for splitting firewood as big as you would want to split on most trips. If you really want to go light weight, the Becker Necker, 3.25" blade, weighs 4 oz with the sheath, is a great little knife.

Will
 
Speaking of both hollow handles and cold steel, look at the cold steel Bushman. Its a single flat piece of steel with the handle wrapped around a form. (Think of a shovel without a handle.)
All the reviews I read were great, and its only 20-25 dollars. The only thing is it comes with a crappy sheath, so I'm going to try to make a kydex one.
Should be here early next week!

Oh yeah, The bushman also has a peg hole so it can be strongly fastened to a stick to make a fishing spear or a self defence spear, or you can fill it with matches and things.
 
Looked at the Becker BK7 and the Cold Steele SRK. Leaning toward the SRK, anyone had a chance to compare them side by side or have firsthand experience using these for cutting, chopping and other survival related tasks?

Prefer to have a knife ready to got with a good quality sheath, that's why I'm ruling ou the Bushman.
 
The Cold Steel Bushman is a very versatile knife. It is a little heavier (10.1 oz) and less strong than the SRK, but it gives you a wider number of use options. Wholesale Hunter has it for $15.00.

Liam, If you are interested in a kydex sheath for the Bushman, check The Sheath Mechanic's version. It includes a piggyback for a firesteel.

bushman05.jpg


You would have to check with Dave for price, but I think they run around $35.00.
 
you should have a look at BARK RIVER KNIFE AND TOOL... they make a wide variety of fixed blades.... the northstar, fox river and the aurora, are all great knives that should handle most camp/bushcraft chores...
 
MDLockard said:

Looked at the Becker BK7 and the Cold Steele SRK. Leaning toward the SRK, anyone had a chance to compare them side by side or have firsthand experience using these for cutting, chopping and other survival related tasks?


Their performance is pretty much equivalent. They are made from the same steel (and probably heat treated the same way), so their strength, toughness, edge holding, and edge retention are the same. I don't own a BK7, but have hadled them. I personally like the blade profile and balance, but do not like the hadle. This is a matter of personal preference. You need to find out what type of hadle you prefer. In my case I prefer Kraton and Thermorum (rubber like handles). I like their grippy surface and their shock-absorbing characteristics for chopping, battoning, and other impact tasks.

Which ever you pick, you need to act quickly since Camillus, which makes both knives, is going under.

Here are a few threads comparing the SRK and BK7.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=431973&highlight=srk+bk7

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415709&highlight=srk+bk7

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380454&highlight=srk+bk7

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343992&highlight=srk+bk7

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=338449&highlight=srk+bk7

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287048&highlight=srk+bk7
 
Thanks preacherman, just what I was thinking of. However, I am going to start getting into kydex myself, so I think the bushman would be a good first project.
But what is the other thing in the sheath with the firesteel, is it a sharpener?

LR
 
I would strongly suggest looking at the Busse Combat and Swamprat knive lines. They cost a bit more than other knives that have been mentioned, but their performance is well worth the cost.

I have a Busse Satin Jack tactical and a Swamprat Ratweiler, and I would trust my life to both in the field and do so on a regualr basis.

Just my 2 cents... :D

Grimalkin
 
I would strongly suggest looking at the Busse Combat and Swamprat knive lines. They cost a bit more than other knives that have been mentioned, but their performance is well worth the cost.

I have a Busse Satin Jack tactical and a Swamprat Ratweiler, and I would trust my life to both in the field and do so on a regualr basis.

Just my 2 cents... :D

Grimalkin

I couldn't agree with you more:thumbup: ! Where I am standing from not it's not just your 2 cents, but these are words of wisdom!
I would say that these are some of the best knives you can possibly buy today! What do I mean by "best"? Solid, tougher than nails, versatile, they can get very sharp and edge retention is fantastic (mostly with BUSSE's), relatively affordable, with the best warranty in the business. However, there is one negative thing in the whole story: lack of availability on the primary market. So, what do you do?
a) You either resort to ebay
b) You look in Bladeforums, Exchange, For Sale by Individuals, For Sale: Production Knives (Individual).

I would like to clarify that I don't mean to put down any other manufacturer who is out there. I just presented my personal opinion which, nevertheless I believe, it is shared by quite a few others too.
 
I would take a look at the RAT line from Ontario. They are strong knives. For your use I would look hard at the RAT 5. It is a great all around knife. I have the the RAT 3 and Model 1 folder. With these 2 knives at hand I never feel under knifed. The RAT 5 is probably going to be my next purchase. The RAT 7 and RTAK II are some serious choppers and alot of knife for their price tag. One word of caution they are addictive and RATS have a way of multiplying.
 
Just ordered the Becker 7 from One Stop Knife Shop. They were out of the cold steel SRK. Was going to order the SRK for the better sheath lighter weight, but will be happy with the Becker. Around $56 with shipping, said it would be here in a week.
They were out of the Spec Ops Combat Master Sheath they recommended, but I'll be using it in a pack or car for camping/ hiking (have folding knives I carry) so I'm ok with the sheath as long as the knife stays in it.
Guys said Camillus was having trouble with carbon production, Preacher Man said they're going out of business so I figured I'd get the knife while I could.
 
I couldn't agree with you more:thumbup: ! Where I am standing from not it's not just your 2 cents, but these are words of wisdom!
I would say that these are some of the best knives you can possibly buy today! What do I mean by "best"? Solid, tougher than nails, versatile, they can get very sharp and edge retention is fantastic (mostly with BUSSE's), relatively affordable, with the best warranty in the business. However, there is one negative thing in the whole story: lack of availability on the primary market. So, what do you do?
a) You either resort to ebay
b) You look in Bladeforums, Exchange, For Sale by Individuals, For Sale: Production Knives (Individual).

I would like to clarify that I don't mean to put down any other manufacturer who is out there. I just presented my personal opinion which, nevertheless I believe, it is shared by quite a few others too.


I have three Busse knives. I thinned out all three to improve the cutting ability. The steel used cries out for a more accute edge to take advantage of its characteristic toughness.

All were purchased from the cheapest place to buy them -- Busse. Prices on the secondary market routinely are at a premium over Busse retail because folks don't want to wait. Now a well-used Busse would be great -- if you can stand waiting for years for one to show up on the secondary market.
 
I have three Busse knives. I thinned out all three to improve the cutting ability. The steel used cries out for a more accute edge to take advantage of its characteristic toughness.

Tom,

Did yours appear to be convexed? I got a Howling Rat and although the website says something about convex I could see nothing convex about it.

I too thinned mine down and it cuts nice now but still does not compare to Fallkniven or Barkriver straight out of the box as far as cutting.
 
Tom,

Did yours appear to be convexed? I got a Howling Rat and although the website says something about convex I could see nothing convex about it.

I too thinned mine down and it cuts nice now but still does not compare to Fallkniven or Barkriver straight out of the box as far as cutting.

HD, no convexing in sight. All three were saber/flat with a secondary bevel.
 
Just ordered the Becker 7 from One Stop Knife Shop. They were out of the cold steel SRK. Was going to order the SRK for the better sheath lighter weight, but will be happy with the Becker. Around $56 with shipping, said it would be here in a week.

You will be happy with the value-for-the-dollar on the BK-7. Good one to start with. You may find the handles a bit uncomfortable, if so, you can order Micarta Handles straight from Camillus, check over on the Camillus forum for details. Quite a few of us Becker owners have done so with good things to say.Plan on giving it a good initial sharpening, you may find you want a little more acute angle to give it better slicing ability. Then you should be good-to-go.

I have the Rat-7 in 1095 steel, they are also a very good choice in the under $100 range. I'm not a lover nor hater of Cold Steel, but, my opinion is that they are so-so, you can do better, don't look back you'll never miss the SRK.

And, in closing, just want to mention that you don't have to lock yourself down to a single implement, common philosophy for Wildersness survival is leaning toward a 6' to 10" blade with the addition of a smaller blade, possibly of the folding variety.

You can never have too many knives. It's picking which ones to carry that is the hard part.
 
Thanks for the help on choosing a knife/tool. Have a Spyderco Military and Leatherman wave. Believe these three will serve me well and each has a speciality.
Anyone have a link to Busse home page? And a link to a good site with Rat knives (they're web page is confusing).
 
Liam Ryan

Thanks preacherman, just what I was thinking of. However, I am going to start getting into kydex myself, so I think the bushman would be a good first project.
But what is the other thing in the sheath with the firesteel, is it a sharpener?

I believe it is a small diamond sharpener. I could be wrong though.
 
THe hollow handle stuff is all its cracked up to be. Go wiht a good SOG, Kabar, Onatrio, Cold Steel, etc. and pick up a Spec ops sheath so you can put your light survival kit in the outside pouch.
 
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