survival senario

[chazz]

i like these kind of threads so i thought i would start one up

lets say that somehow you are in the deep woods of canada, russia, were ever it is cold and heavily wooded. what would your stragegies be for survival? what would you eat, and how would you get it? were and in what would you seek shelter? how and with what would you cloth yourself? how would you protect your self and food from other animals? and how would you make your way out and back to civilization

and lets say that you have the basic things for survival-BASIC-

 

[robe280]

I would be telling myself that bears etc are hunted and therefore scared of me. I would also assume I am not hiding from anyone. In that case I would light a fire using basic survival fire lighters. It would serve to melt snow for water and keep me warm through nights. I would then use my compass to walk my way out of there with every bit of natural light available. As for food I would scavenge and browse as I went. Being cold and snow I would dig for roots etc and look for small burrows. If this was going to take a awhile I would use a knife to make a bow and arrow and try to shoot birds etc.

The real issues are whats in the basic survival kit.
my vote

The kit is in aluminium suitable to drink out of or carry water or for boiling water.
space blanket
knife - spyderco manix
compass
small cord (suitable for bow string and any other use)
cigarette lighter
Antiseptic cream
Triangle bandage

Most survival stories come down to managing core temperature and fluids. As for arming myself to the hilt. I would feel more comfortable moving fast and silently through the bush.

 

[pict]

Robe280,

"Most survival stories come down to managing core temperature and fluids."
Well said. FIRE - WATER - SHELTER... or is that SHELTER - FIRE - WATER? Mac

 

[Elkchsr]

I personally like to start by getting a fire going, and to collect enough wood to last out the night, then shelter, water, food in that order.

There are plenty of plants that are almost in every environment you can eat, and the only problem is getting some thing to hold water, unless it happens to be in your survival stuff, or some aluminum foil to make some thing warm to drink, but that is a luxury.

Remember where the larger places that people live, go by the sun and a few other indicators of direction, unless you happen to have a compass. Spend a couple days getting ready for a long trek by making extra food and containers to carry water, depending on the terrain and part of the world your in, some places have potable water every where.

Then just take my time walking out...

Here is the biggest thing every one needs to keep in mind, there are two things to take into account before you even get started...

1. There is no room for negative thoughts; they do nothing for you in a survival situation.

2. Look at the whole incident as an adventure, and some thing fun and interesting to experience.
Don’t look at it as an ordeal one must overcome and conquer this will do nothing but turn the whole lost thing into some thing miserable and sour never to do again

 

[smahlau]

that's the right Idea, look at it as an adventure. try to find evergreens and build a lean-to. evergreens will help protect from the wind and weather as well as absorb the heat from the fire you build LENGTH WISE to your lean-to. for food. spend some time watching the indigeanouse wild life to find paterns in where they live and where they go. set up snares accordingly. all I'd think I'd need is a good four inch folder as a minimum. but I'd prefer a 8 in bowie for over all usefullness. set up a good sized fire and wait untill an opportuned moment comes. ei you hear or see a plane or any thing else that you might think will see the smoke and investigate. If this isn't working. I garantee any where in the world, If you wait a few days and look to the sky, you'll see a plane. then it's 50 50 which way you go. where the plane came from or where it's going. chances are it came from civilization. find a land mark in the terrain and move towards that point. then reasses your direction. don't travel by the sun or moon. only use the stars if you really know what your doing. Use land marks. I'd Imagine if your lost in the woods then your dressed for it, and if you not, maybe your better off lost in the woods

 

[Cliff Stamp]

lets say that somehow you are in the deep woods of canada...

The first thing you should do is get a long walking stick and make a set of bough snowshoes with a better set planned.

This is to insure you don't go over your head in snow as this will kill you, until you get those two items be very careful where you walk.

Depending on the severity of the enviroment take steps to insure you don't suffer temp drops. This would include :

1) fire
2) insulation for your clothing
3) shelter

Then as soon as possible set up a high contrast signal on the snow, boughs work well, pointing to your shelter.

Now you can start looking for food (assumes you can melt ice/snow for water), there are lots of vegetation, ice fishing can be possible, but the ice can be thick, look for animal trails.

Now you have to decide to wait or walk out.

-Cliff

 

[alco141]

lets see, where are we and how did we get there? are we on the way somewhere in an alaskan bush plane and the plane went down, pilot killed, how far from the destination are we? more information would be available to make choices, unless we were kidnapped by aliens and arrived in a rubber suit complete with probes inserted in personal orifices, then we would have to figure just where we were dropped off(after getting those probes out first).

if you are traveling in a bush plane , well i dont get in a bush plane without carrying a sleeping bag and survival kit and firearm, an advice given to me by an alaskan pilot. so if my scenario is correct then i have my survival kit, sleeping bag, rifle or shotgun or pistol. alaskan survival kit has chopper -G-B hunters axe, saw, 3 days food, first aid kit, two space blankets, canteen cup, water purification, 1qt. platapus bottle, ammo for firearm, fishing gear,3- 4 mil garbage bags, 50 ft cordage.gps, in a small pack.

belt has leatherman supertool, atax or knives of alaska brown bear combo, pockets have bic lighter, firesteel, 2 mylar emergency blankets. whistle, tinder, lifeboat matches ,50 ft cordage, fish hooks, split shot , 50 ft fishing monofilament, SAK- one handed trailmaster, compass, map.

so given this equipment i might hang around the wreckage for a day or two to see if anyone shows up at least until the weather breaks and see if we are missed. then make my plans from there.

alex

 

[BlueyM]

I live in a desert area of Australia, and the first rule of anyone stranded in a vehicle or aircraft crash in the desert is "do not leave the vehicle".

Does the same rule apply for aircraft crashes or stranded vehicles in Canada's wilderness?
Do SAR teams have success in locating lost/ stranded travellers?

A bit OT, but it sparked my interest.

 

[Freezer]

The first thing you should do is get a long walking stick and make a set of bough snowshoes with a better set planned.

This is to insure you don't go over your head in snow as this will kill you, until you get those two items be very careful where you walk.

Depending on the severity of the enviroment take steps to insure you don't suffer temp drops. This would include :

1) fire
2) insulation for your clothing
3) shelter

Then as soon as possible set up a high contrast signal on the snow, boughs work well, pointing to your shelter.

Now you can start looking for food (assumes you can melt ice/snow for water), there are lots of vegetation, ice fishing can be possible, but the ice can be thick, look for animal trails.

Now you have to decide to wait or walk out.

-Cliff

+1 on the snowshoes (or skis). In the rural areas (depending where you are.) in wintertime it's very frustrating to walk in the woods, because you will be literally up to your waist in snow. For water it's smarter to melt ice then snow, because you will have to burn a lot more firewood and use a lot more energy if you use snow. if ice isn't an option the more packed the snow is the better.

 

[coyotebc]

Interesting, tonight I watched an episode of surviorman and that was his scenario, downed plane in northern ontario in the winter.
In winter in canada water is seldom a problem as usually there will be snow (read that as usually)
Shelter/heat is first concerne then water then food.
Food in most areas would be small mamals such as hares, rabbits squirells ect. the best bet for these would be setting snares or deadfalls, to avoid protien poisoning from a rabbit diet, you would need to eat the organs (including brains and eyes) as well as bones to get the fat needed.
I have been out in honest to goodness -65* F weather once (with wind chill) and I really don't know if I could have possibly survived the night if I was in a downed plane. I have gone on hunting trips in northern bc where I have spent close to two weeks in weather below zero and in a tent(only once in a guide tent with a heater) you need good sleeping gear, good warm clothes, don't get wet, and lots of high energy food
For myself when travelling in my car during the winter, I always have pac boots, warm parka and wool clothing, as well as shovel and axe in a survival box in the car.
Remember in cold weather wool retains 80% of it's insulation when wet and it won't melt or catch fire when snuggling up close to a fire.

 

[Elkchsr]

Lots and lots of great ideas for the scenerio...

It is better to practice here in your mind, than out in the field under adverse conditions when it really counts...

 

[woodybushman]

I live in a desert area of Australia, and the first rule of anyone stranded in a vehicle or aircraft crash in the desert is "do not leave the vehicle".

Does the same rule apply for aircraft crashes or stranded vehicles in Canada's wilderness?
Do SAR teams have success in locating lost/ stranded travellers?

A bit OT, but it sparked my interest.

yes that is a general consensus here as well. as such, i drive a bright red truck, and on the roof i put a strip of that highly reflective red/white tape that the truckers use to mark the ends of their rigs. as well, i have a piece on THE BOTTOM of the truck
in case i flip it. You can shine a very dim light at it from over a 1000 feet away and see it!, or if a SAR team is searching with lights, it makes the truck stand out like a case of road flares on fire. I have shone a spotlamp at the truck, from over 1 mile away and been able to clearly see it.

i never leave the vehicle in a situation. It provides me with shelter, a means to make a very smoky signal fire with the oil int he tranny and diffs, a means to make fire in general (battery, cig lighter etc) and there is always a warm blanket, food and water inside the truck.