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I am looking for a few pointers for my first survival trip.
I will be carring carry a 9mm handgun and a 22 rifle. A Battle Mistress and a reeve shadow iv.
I will also have fishing line, hooks,waterfilter,firestarter,and some 550 cord. I will only be out for five days but want to be as comfortable as possible. any suggestions are appreciated. btw we will be hunting fishing foraging and trapping. Thanks Jeff
 
Unless you're bringing it for entertainment, I'd leave the 9mm home. The .22 rifle is a much more effective survival tool, and would do a creditable job as a defensive weapon.
 
I hate to rain on your parade, but if this is your first survival trip and you want to be comfortable, you need a lot more than just a few tools.

You should start out with several one and two night trips after your skills have been practiced and honed. Then work your way toward more time out, and less gear with you. From what I see in your post, you'll be tired, cold, sleep restlessly and possibly be hungry and this is with good weather.

I'm sure others will chime in shortly but I strongly suggest you go over to Hood's Woods and read about Ron's upcoming SOLO TRIP. He'll be spending two weeks out in the woods on his own and he has been doing this for 30 years. The preps and requirements are greater than you think, mostly in the skills department.

Have you ever caught a fish with nothing more than a hook and line? Have you ever trapped an animal for food? Have you ever built a shelter with only natural materials?
What are you using for a water container? Do you have emergency rations with you in case you find yourself without food for the first four days? What will you do for shelter, fire, etc if it rains the entire 5 days? And so...

This is a major undertaking...Try it in your backyard for a day or two and see what I mean.

Good luck!



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Thanks guys, I will be going with another person who is an avid outdoorsman as well. I have been on several trips simular to this but with two big exceptions food, and sleeping bag. I am HOPING that there will be sufficent food running around out there or we may be eating a ton of wild salad greens. And quite possibly come back early. Although I know I have the will power to stick it out for five days, it might be miserable. Plainsman you bring up several good points. all info appreciated. later, Jeff
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by salamander:
I am HOPING that there will be sufficent food running around out there or we may be eating a ton of wild salad greens.</font>
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The food that's "running around", as in meat, you need to eat 3 kg per day of to get as much energy as you need. It's possible to do, but unless you're used to it, you're probably not going to feel very well the third day.
Survival trip, as in going somewhere, and fishing doesn't mix very well. Unless you're very lucky you won't catch enough fish to compensate for the time you loose. Fishing can be useful if you're stationary and you either already have gathered the vegetables you need for the day or you can do it in some unattended way [=preferably with several lines and hooks].
If you want to be "comfortable", my first recommendation is that you see to it that you get 500 kcal worth of roots and the like per day. That'll be enough to let you utilize your body fat for the rest of the energy.
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Drastic change of diet or lack of food does weird things to you initially. Oh you'll survive 5 days even if you don't get any substantial food but whether you will be up to par to learn more is another question.

Be careful going "all out" without acclimatizing yourself to the change. Planned survival trips should be learning experiences in my opinion. Have fun.

Jeff

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In any outing I've ever been on/in/at, I've used my SAK more than any other blade present, bar none. Subtle hint there.

Also, you should try to include items to provide for all personal survival needs, those being; Shelter, Water, Fire, First Aid, and lastly, Food.

You'll need plenty of potable water. I didn't see a canteen listed in your kit or a method of water purification other than the filter. A GI canteen and canteen cup could serve your needs well here, the cup can be used as a boiling pot.

I also didn't see a First Aid Kit or supplies mentioned. First Aid can quickly become a priority in any outing, some simple supplies should be considered.

Also, you stated you wanted to be as comfortable as possible, so I'd include a poncho for use as a rain cover, rain fly, wind or sun block, etc.

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Go for it Salamander,
I gotta go with what Jeff said, sure your kit up a little. Trial & error is not such a bad way of learning, but hit the bush to do it, when you do back yard survival training its just to easy to retreat to the tv,ac,frig,bed etc. Take it to the bush and take a small note pad and write your findings down, what worked and what didnt what you needed and what you didnt and so on!!

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Just curious - what are your medical preparations? How are you securing/providing for water? Can you list out your kit?

Mike
 
As long as you have someone going with you, and are close enough to civvy in case of emergency, I say, sounds like fun! This will be an excellent way to learn. You'll find out quickly what works and what doesn't, and what you'll bring next time. Bring a camera and post some pics!
 
Hey Jeff, just noticed, you're from the same area as I am. Shoot me an email, I sent you one, but was returned.
 
HI,
I did leave two things out of my original post that I will be taking. one is a camelback backpack for hauling all my gear and water collection. and the other is some type of first aid. What exactly should be included I dont know so help would be appreciated. Also We plan on hiking in as far as possible the first day untill we find water. hopefully 15-20 miles. we then plan on holding up there for three days before starting back out which will probably be slow and agonizing. Later, Jeff
 
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