Swamp Rat - Rat-Ruck

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My next want (for fun chopping) is one of the following from either Scrap Yard in SR77 or from Swamp Rat in Differentially treated SR101 with a 15” – 16” blade. This would be nice in G10 or micarta! In either case, I would want about a 2/3 height convex grind similar to a Wakizashi.


Scrap-Ruck Concept:
ScrapYard-ScrapRuck.jpg



Rat-Ruck Concept one:
SwampRat-Rat-Ruckone.jpg


Rat-Ruck Concept two:
SwampRat-Rat-Rucktwo.jpg




Anybody else?

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I'll take the Rat-Ruck with the E-handle. I like that concept, but doubt SRKW would use the E-handle configuration. I'm sure they could come up with something similar. Nice work.
 
Maybe a slightly longer handle for two-handed manipulation?

I don't know the exact specs, but kind of like the AK.
 
cybrok said:
Maybe a slightly longer handle for two-handed manipulation?

I don't know the exact specs, but kind of like the AK.
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The AK has a blade of about 18.5".

I would personally prefer a blade around 15" - 16" (possibly 17"). At this length, I think it could be controlled very well with a roomy, yet well designed for grip, single hand grip.
I would compare it to a thick, stout, slightly heavier, short machete.
I would prefer a handle with some sort of beak at the pommel. I think this offers better control.
I personally strongly prefer a single grip to a double grip. I would make the Rat-kizashi balanced to suit a single hand grip.

For comparison, I measure the "Grip area" of my Battle Rat at about 4.0625" - measuring the underside of the grip from the peak of the pommel to the peak at the front of the grip/guard. The over-all length of my Battle Rat handle is about 5.125".

So, I guess the the handle I am describing may have a "grip area" at about 4.125" - 4.375" and about 5.25" - 5.5" oal.

This would put the Rat-kizashi at about 20.25" - 21.5" oal.

Compared to the AK at 29" oal.

The Rat-kizashi would be lighter, faster and more nimble in the hand with a single grip and I feel similar cutting leverage could be achieved with a well designed handle.
Keeping the over-all length closer to 20.25" - 21.5" (possibly 22.5") would make the Rat-kizashi much easier to carry than the AK.

Keeping the over-all length with a single handle should also keep the price more reasonable. A two handed grip would bump the length up about 5.5" - 6" more inches.

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I'd go for the Scrap Yard version; as best I can tell from discussions of steel that I've read (and at the risk of starting another), SR77 shines most brightly in big blades and SR101 tends to be ideal for EDC-sized knives. At the risk of sounding a bit silly, I'd really be interested in an SR77 cutlass.
 
jnphares said:
I'd go for the Scrap Yard version; as best I can tell from discussions of steel that I've read (and at the risk of starting another), SR77 shines most brightly in big blades and SR101 tends to be ideal for EDC-sized knives. At the risk of sounding a bit silly, I'd really be interested in an SR77 cutlass.
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I have yet to see any toughness comparisons between SR77 and SR101. From what I can gather, I assume you are probalby correct. I am "loosely" under the impression that SR77 should be better suited for a blade of this size than SR101. But, I don't honestly know.

I am under the impression that Scrap Yard is going to be Res-C and Swamp is going to be micarta and G10. I am not sure how much overlap and exceptions they will or won't make (????). I would probably be fine with Res-C for this blade. I have been very happy with the larger Res-C handles.

But, I probably slightly prefer micarta or G10 handles such as in the concept one picture. I would probably be all over the groved pattern on G10 scales such as on the Ratmandu as well. But, I think the shape of the handle would need more of a beak than what is on the Ratmandu.

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Resinguy,

I actually gave you credit for the original picture that I hacked when I first posted the Res-C version on Scrap Yard. I meant to give you credit here as well.

Credit for the original picture goes to Resinguy, I edited his pic of his Ruck.

I hope it is O.K. with Resinguy.

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I thought it looked strangely familiar. :D

I haven't been over in the dog pound lately, so I hadn't seen your post there.

It's all good, hack away. :thumbup:
 
I suggest a Scrap sword with two-handed Resiprene-C plus a battle guard!
Resiprene-C handles being light, I would think, one-handed would have too much weight forward.
 
I have NEVER forgotten.

I can't wait for my Waki. Should be in my hands Monday or Tuesday.
 
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