Sweet old Bowie - restoration questions, pics, etc.

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Howdy folks?!

A real benefit to offering free sharpening and restoring of knives for friends and co-workers is that you occasionally have an interesting knife handed to you that you get to handle, work on, and in some cases swing around alone inside your house.

This is one of those cases:
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Western W49 Bowie.

From some quick research it seems like this knife was made ~’68-‘73, and was used (maybe issued as well??) in Vietnam.

The person who owns the knife said his uncle carried it during his service - not sure which branch.

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I asked if he wanted to preserve the knife as an historical object or refurbish it as a tool, and he chose option #2.

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I also sent him the above picture and discussed possibilities re: how much he wanted it addressed. He said it would be ok to sand through the dent and leave a groove.

Essentially he wants to keep the knife “as OG as possible”, which I intend to do.


Any other suggestions on how I might tackle that dent? The wood is crushed pretty deep and it pokes up more than the photo suggests.

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Another issue is a slight bend, (can’t really see it in the photo). I actually haven’t told the owner yet. I’m not convinced I should, and I’ll explain why: If I say it’s bent, I’ll also say I can attempt to fix it, but that there’s a slim possibility I could break the blade. I have, now that I recall, broken one blade in this manner, after having warned the owner it could happen. Another time I asked about attempting a fix and was told to just leave it because the bend was so slight.

Anyway I sort of expect the owner of this Bowie will never notice the bend, and that if I bring it up, he’ll probably decline a fix, but will always be a little bummed about the blade. I dunno -your thoughts??C101B9C6-C39D-4129-B4EF-C37FCB311FAF.jpegC5A5C3A5-F20D-4D58-A936-8C85CCA69F47.jpeg
Guard markings above - Western on one side, W49 on the other. No printing/stamps on the blade.

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The edge is pretty jacked but thankfully it hasn’t been sharpened a million times so the edge isn’t too thick. I’m looking forward to seeing it when it’s done.

I’ll probably use my Edge Pro on this and put a not quite mirror v edge on it.

The sheath is almost serviceable but pretty dry. I’m planning to give it some mink oil and already suggested he retire it.

Another question - any lines on reproduction sheathes for this model? Other inexpensive ideas?

Interestingly this knife is almost exactly the same weight and length as the Siegle Bowie I recently got.

It’s gonna be a beast when it’s sharp!

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Re. The sheath; Marbles makes a reproduction Bowie knife and the sheath for that knife would is very inexpensive and fits your knife like a glove.

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While the obvious fix is to replace the scales, are there any epoxies/fillers that can be applied in this situation? Assuming the Owner wants that of course.

And for those who suggest the Steam method, I can see it working on "dents" on a flat surface, but can it be applied to a corner section as in this knife handle?
 
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I'd try the steam method as well I've used it quite a few times on gun stocks. That blade also looks twisted so not sure it can be fixed without taking out the temper of it or snapping it if not. If it were me, I'd just leave it as a historical piece and pick up another online. I wonder if someone was trying to pry something open to put that twist in it.
 
Awesome thanks people!

I’ll try to track down a Marbles sheath and will definitely attempt the steaming idea. It probably won’t allow for an “invisible” fix, but hopefully it’ll reduce the size of the scar that’s left behind.

Yeah the blade could have a slight twist as well - it’s hard to tell tbh. I think I’m going to see if/how the bend affects sharpening - although maybe using the Edge Pro might be a bad idea on a bent blade… 🧐
 
Steaming might not work so well if the fibers are sheared. Might make things worse.
Is the blade actually bent? Looks more like the guard is not straight.
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Is the tip twisted or just ground a bit off center?
 
Steaming might not work so well if the fibers are sheared. Might make things worse.
Is the blade actually bent? Looks more like the guard is not straight.
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Is the tip twisted or just ground a bit off center?
Hmmm - the fibers are sheared but I think some are just smashed as well. Will try a little steam to puff up the intact fibers but will file/sand away the sheared ones…

I’m pretty sure there’s a slight bend about midway up the blade. I’m less convinced there’s a twist - I agree it might just have been ground off-center.

Anyone have a good way to test for straightness besides just looking really hard??
 
Ok kids - she’s done!

This is one of those knives that seems to WANT to be sharp.

It came off my belt sander with a legit working edge (albeit with a burr) and now wears a hair-popping (almost tree topping) edge. :D

Best news is that after extensive examination I’m almost certain the blade isn’t bent, and just has a slightly wonky grind. The whole knife is clearly hand ground.

The sheath is one I made years ago for a custom John Greco knife that I lost. :(

I updated it slightly by splitting the belt loop which should make it ride nicer.

For the handle I soaked it in mineral oil for a couple of days, then used magnification and very small files and sandpaper to clean up the gouges in the handle. No splinters now. I finished it off with tung oil.

The blade is basically untouched save for sharpening and cleaning. Amazingly there was no actual rust anywhere to be found so I didn’t need to do much.

Pics are on the way…
 
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