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Hey..
So I know obviously a spyderco salt will work for swimming or diving.
But I'de rather just use what I have.

I am wondering if I can use say... 14crmov ruike ? Sometimes salt h20 but mostly fresh h20.

I want to have it clipped on my suit.
 
91bravo said:
Any knife in water will be fine, as long as you 100% dry it out afterwards. It's when it's still wet underneath the scales, pivot, locking mechanism, etc, is when rust starts to set in.
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So let's say you are swimming all day.
Afterwards wipe it off and use a air dryer for the liner ?
 
Freshwater should be ok, but it should be cleaned and dried afterwards.
Saltwater, however is NOT your friend. Even a short dip in the ocean without fully rinsing it off fairly quickly will start it corroding. The screws and other hardware will likely be the first to go since it's usually made of cheaper steel. Especially on the lower costing imported knives.
 
Skar said:
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So let's say you are swimming all day.
Afterwards wipe it off and use a air dryer for the liner ?
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I have an onboard air compressor mounted to my truck, so I use it to blow the water out. I spray it down with some wd40, and spray that out too. It will make due until I can get home and detail my knife.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind getting my knife wet, but I wouldn't swim with it all day long. Just me though.
 
NorthernSouthpaw said:
Freshwater should be ok, but it should be cleaned and dried afterwards.
Saltwater, however is NOT your friend. Even a short dip in the ocean without fully rinsing it off fairly quickly will start it corroding. The screws and other hardware will likely be the first to go since it's usually made of cheaper steel. Especially on the lower costing imported knives.
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This too. I don't take my knives into the ocean, just when kayaking or boating.
 
Skar said:
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So let's say you are swimming all day.
Afterwards wipe it off and use a air dryer for the liner ?
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Freshwater, yes. Saltwater, no. You need to clean all the salt & minerals off first.
If you've been swimming all day it has already started corroding.
 
Good to know..
I may have to break down and buy another spyderco... salt.
 
Ruike uses 14C28N and 12C27MoV. Both are good at preventing rust with 14% and 13.5% Cr in them. You could get away with the Ruike if you don't mind disassembling it and thoroughly cleaning it now and then. How often do you clean it? It would depend on how often and how many hours you spend in the water each day./week/month I would guess.

NorthernSouthpaw NorthernSouthpaw makes a good point. The screws and liners of the Ruike would show corrosion first before the blade.

If you do a lot around the water, I'd get a H1 Spyderco Salt. Especially if you go in salt water on occasion. That is what it is made for.
 
I’ve kayaked with my S90v Manix all day and it never rusted. Stayed wet pretty much all day, but no rust or specks in the blade. I was half expecting some rust when I got home, but to my surprise, there was none!
 
gazz98 said:
Ruike uses 14C28N and 12C27MoV. Both are good at preventing rust with 14% and 13.5% Cr in them. You could get away with the Ruike if you don't mind disassembling it and thoroughly cleaning it now and then. How often do you clean it? It would depend on how often and how many hours you spend in the water each day./week/month I would guess.

NorthernSouthpaw NorthernSouthpaw makes a good point. The screws and liners of the Ruike would show corrosion first before the blade.

If you do a lot around the water, I'd get a H1 Spyderco Salt. Especially if you go in salt water on occasion. That is what it is made for.
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Ha ha ...I don't think I've ever taken apart and have done a deep clean other than on my husky utility knife!!

I will be getting a h1 salt after this next purchase I do.
Thanks guys.
 
I always carry a knife around the water.

We spent a week on the Gulf coast of Texas every summer. I always carried an Original G1 Harpy.

Every night rinsed it out with scalding water, shook it dry and hosed it with WD40 (later, Ballistol when I discovered it)

Never an issue. Sand was a pain in the butt to get out though.
 
Spyder Salts are always brought up in water conversations. We know the blades (H1, LC200) are very corrosion resistant. But what are the screws made from? Is all hardware on the Salt Series made from the same?
 
bflying said:
Spyder Salts are always brought up in water conversations. We know the blades (H1, LC200) are very corrosion resistant. But what are the screws made from? Is all hardware on the Salt Series made from the same?
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That always comes up too. The bolts and hardware aren't a problem. Making steel that won't rust is nailed.

it's when you want steel that won't rust and that will also hold a sharp edge things get more complicated.
 
NorthernSouthpaw said:
Freshwater should be ok, but it should be cleaned and dried afterwards.
Saltwater, however is NOT your friend. Even a short dip in the ocean without fully rinsing it off fairly quickly will start it corroding. The screws and other hardware will likely be the first to go since it's usually made of cheaper steel. Especially on the lower costing imported knives.
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Yup.

NorthernSouthpaw said:
Freshwater, yes. Saltwater, no. You need to clean all the salt & minerals off first.
If you've been swimming all day it has already started corroding.
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Yup again.

I'm in and around salt water a good bit. The salinity in The Keys will have you feeling like a pretzel when you get out and start air drying. The Spyderco Pacific Salts I have love The Keys.

Whatever the Pacific Salts have for hardware stand up just as well as the blade in my experience.
 
I will swim with any folder I own except for my CRKs or an auto. But certainly my go to is Spyderco Native Salt. I’ve had very good results with n690co as well. As a guide for 6 months in the Caribbean, I snorkeled hundreds of hours with an S35VN Native.
 
How about higher end knives like an Umnumzaan with Ti and S30V steel or a Hinderer with its 20CV steel?
 
You've already got good advice on folders. The real chore is cleaning and thoroughly drying afterwards. A fixed blade using a kydex or polymer sheath with decent retention can be much simpler. Having synthetic scales that are easily removable or no scales at all is another plus.

There is overlap with the world of neck knives here. Whether you wear it around your neck, with a clip, or in a bathing suit pocket; it's definitely worth exploring. For instance, check out the Tangram Brevis from Kizer. The Acuto 440 offers decent edge retention and good corrosion resistance. Sheath retention is strong. It's only like $25 so it won't be the end of the world if you lose it.
 
Chronovore said:
You've already got good advice on folders. The real chore is cleaning and thoroughly drying afterwards. A fixed blade using a kydex or polymer sheath with decent retention can be much simpler. Having synthetic scales that are easily removable or no scales at all is another plus.

There is overlap with the world of neck knives here. Whether you wear it around your neck, with a clip, or in a bathing suit pocket; it's definitely worth exploring. For instance, check out the Tangram Brevis from Kizer. The Acuto 440 offers decent edge retention and good corrosion resistance. Sheath retention is strong. It's only like $25 so it won't be the end of the world if you lose it.
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Thank you.
I am intending a smaller knife maybe 3 inch blade to clip on the inside of my suits waist band. I don't want to go to a pool/lake with kids and families with a obvious fixed blade strapped on me.

I always have a knife with me yet I don't have one on me while swimming. That's what I want to change.

I am guilty of some foriegn products ( rat, ruick, ) yet ... I'm trying to be better and purchase home grown knives.

Any other h1 folders come to mind other than the salt ?
I'll look at your suggestions and weigh in if I think they may fit in.
Appreciate the help.
 
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