Take a look at my speed safe liner, is it alright?

Capt. Carl

Gold Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2006
Messages
1,665
Im trying to figure out if my Chive's liner is safe, it seems like its not far enough in on the lock face. I can push it in so that it is in a safe spot. Here are some pictures, the first one is of how it normally is and the second one is when i push it in.
dscn26942wd.jpg

dscn26936xb.jpg
 
it looks about like mine, in the first pic. i've had no problem. if it worries you contact kershaw and send it back to be adjusted if needed. later,ahgar
 
Personally I would send it in with the kind of lockup that is shown in the first picture.

To me that is unacceptable. I might think differently of it if the liner and the tang were really nice and squared off. Since they are sort of that polished/rounded style I would want my lock to engage a bit more. ;)

I've used Kershaw's warranty service before and they were fast, and wonderful. Everything got fixed like a champ. :thumbup:
 
Alright, I'll have to call em up. I bought it off of Amazon, is that alright for the proof of purchase? Also what if you get one off of ebay? do you just mail the ebay auction certificate thing?
 
Don't matter where you got it. As long as you have it they'll fix it.

You don't need proof of anything. Just send them the knife. ;)
 
great! I also hear that they have great service, I even hear I can expect it back in under a week!
 
If it were my knife, I'd like the lock to engage somewhere between the first and second pictures. It will wear over time and move closer to the other scale, and since it's not a very hard use knife, I wouldn't worry too much about it. But that's just me.

If it worries you, and it is your knife (and fingers), send it in. Kershaw's got a lot of good people working for them and their CS and repair departments are as good as it gets.
 
I'm kind of worried, it appears only a millimeter away from cutting my finger up. I think the 2-3 dollars in shipping with a week wait would be worth it to bypass a hospital visit.
 
maybe, i could just wait a week and see what happens...
does anyone else have any good pictures of where their chive's liner lock is positioned?
 
If it is a new one you might wait a couple of weeks and open and shut it a bunch and see if it works in. I have an Emerson Commander and when I got it the lock looked just like your first picture. It worried me but I kept an eye on it and opened and shut it a bunch and in a week or so the entire lock was over against the blade. I have had no other trouble with it. I hope yours works the same.

Nolan
 
I was thinking to do just the same nolan! good to hear that you had success with that method! I hope I will be able to say the same.
 
Capt. Carl said:
maybe, i could just wait a week and see what happens...
does anyone else have any good pictures of where their chive's liner lock is positioned?

I definitely reccomend waiting a week before doing anything. Mine came like yours but was quick to wear in to a very good level. If it hasn't gotten better after giving it time then I would send it in. After a couple of weeks mine started to engage to where the second picture is on it's own.
 
My Blue Bump is a bit like that. I put it on a wooden cutting board with the blade overhanging the board and pushed down on the top of the blade to see if the lock would fail, but it was very sturdy and wouldn't give.

Presumably to tighten, it is just a matter of putting the liner lock in a vice and gently moving the free end of the lock to the opposite liner a little?
 
good things i'm hearing here! This is a really neat knife, i love it. Getting a Rainbow Leek next!
 
Andrew Taylor said:
My Blue Bump is a bit like that. I put it on a wooden cutting board with the blade overhanging the board and pushed down on the top of the blade to see if the lock would fail, but it was very sturdy and wouldn't give.

Presumably to tighten, it is just a matter of putting the liner lock in a vice and gently moving the free end of the lock to the opposite liner a little?

I would not do what is recommended here. The problem is not that the (in your case frame lock) does not go over far enough but that it is tight and has to wear in before it can go further over. I would not try to force it.

One thing that I forgot to mention, take a lead pencil and mark the the part of the blade where the lock catches. Cover the surface with lead and that will lubricate it to where the frame lock will move further over. After a week or two you will not have to do this anymore as it will have worn in to where it works fine.

Hope you have good luck with your new knives.

Nolan
 
thanks for the tips! I'll keep you guys filled in if it moves over any further so people with the same question can just go to this thread.
 
Acording to many of the best knifemakers in the world, the lockup in your first pic is ideal. You want it to engauge as little as possible and still be secure. This allows the lock to last longer in the face of wear.

So, give it a spinewack test. If it passes, then the lock is secure.

Whether the lock is like in the first pic, or second pic, doesn't really make much difference in security. If the lock slips, it slips. Being over futher only adds a tiny bit of friction to help prevent slippage.

As you use the knife, the lock will move over.

Only put lube on the lock and tang if it is too hard to unlock. Putting lube on a lock that you are worried about being secure is not a good idea. If it isn't secure, lube will hurt, not help. It will not increase break-in, it will decrease it, and it will increase the chance of failure.

But again, just give it a spine wack. That will tell you if it is over far enough or not.

Some of the other best knifemakers think a lock with more contact is better. I don't know which is right (probably both), but I think they are both means to the same ends. And that is why I say test it. If it is secure, it is secure. The different theories about which tang/lock contact is best are just theories. Secure is secure and both schools of thought seem to be able to produce secure locks. Knifemakers of both schools have produced strong locks and become world renowned.
 
Cool. Even though Kershaw has great customer service, it is always a bummer to have to send a knife back.

Since the knife has AO and is "flicked" open every time it is opened, the lock should move over fairly soon, which will give you more confidence in the lock and should also slightly increase the security of the lock. After moving over a bit, the movement should slow down to nearly a stop, and then the lock should last years and years before going all of the way over or developing play.

But if you feel your spine wack was hard enough to prove to yourself that the lock is secure, then that's all that matters. There is always a stronger lock, and every lock can fail. Yours just has to stand up to your standards and your uses.
 
Back
Top