Taking the plunge! First 2 orders!

Taz

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Well, I finally went overboard and into water over my head! I will make (read attempt) a 4" drop point knife for my uncle out of 1/8 A-2 for deer skinning and my cousin's boyfriend wants me to make him a 4" blade boot knife with single edge and a false edge (Double Edges are a no no in CT) with a carbon fiber handle. I think I will do something like Dogman's fighting knife, not a double edge bootknife, but rather more of a single edge spear point with a false edge. I will probably order 1.5" A-2 from McMaster-Carr, along with some 50 grit ceramic sanding 1x30 belts. Does anyone know where I can get 36 or 40 grit ceramic belts in 1x30??? Also, the carbon fiber handle slabs might be a problem. I will be grinding them outside and will prob wear gloves, long sleeves, respirator and full face shield and have some water buckets handy. Halpertitanium has the carbon fiber, but $80 a sq. foot?????? I emailed Carver, who had some carbon fiber scales for sale, so I will see how that turns out. I think I will keep that handle pretty much square, so it will be less shaping and dust. I will use Paul Bos for the heat treat...it's $10 a blade up to 6 blades, then up to 20 blades for $60, right? I will probably have only 2 or 4 blades to send to him, so I will have to pay $10 a blade. I will probably use stag handles on my uncle hunting knife. Sheaths aren't my concern now; I might just get them from texas Knifemakers supply.

I just have one problem. I am having some trouble getting the grinds on both sides the same thickness. I am using 3/16" steel, so it needs a lot of grinding. The aren't too off, just barely noticable. The platen and belt don't line up, either. Can I make a platen of micarta that it beveled a little and just press the knife up against that to get an even flat bevel? It's hard to hold the knife at the same angle on each side and I was wondering if I could do a beveled platen instead (maybe 5 degree bevel over a few inches) and just hold the blade into that. Also, is there some way I can mount a small wheel of some sort on the platen to do contact grinding? I'm just trying to think of ways to make the 1x30 more versitile and fun to play with. I also have to move my grinding operation outside as I was working in the basement and the dust was getting everywhere. Please let me know any sugestions! I am pretty nervous about my first 2 blades for other people, but my first 3 came out pretty well, so hopefully they won't be too bad! Also, if anyone has any ideas on what a good deer skinning knife blade would be, let me know! thanks guys and I'll try to get some pics up soon!
 
Taz,
I'm not realy sure about the 1X30 belts. Flat grinding is also not by specialty so platten designs and modifications.......I dunno
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As far as carbon fiber and G10, I wear a respirator, and Gym shorts. As soon as I'm done working with it, I blow myself off outside with an air hose. Then I use our outside pool shower and rinse off all the nasties before I even think of going in the house.

Hunters........
This is my Small Hunter. It's all I realy ever use to process critters from whitetail size on down. 7 1/4" OAL, 3"+ Blade. Drilled and tapered tang, VERY LIGHT!! Pictured is a Talonite version.
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Many of my customers and I prefer a blade that is short enough to put and idex finger along the spine and sligthy over the point so nothing is accidentally cut while opening up the animal. It's also small enough for precision cutting, hide removal and even caping. I also do a skinner blade version based on the same handle shape.
Last year at this time, I had sold more of these than all my other paterns combined. It continues to be a VERY popular model.
You are welcome to use the design or base your own from it of you like
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Neil

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I also do a hunter similar to Neil's, the handle with a bit more curve and the bottom of the ricasso flatter, the thing that I believe makes it so popular is the finger notch and the little finger"bump" behind it. That combination makes it feel good in the hand.
That's usually the first reaction I get when someone picks it up.
 
ALL, read this as ALL relatives, close and distant, once they find out you make knives, want a knife. "They", along with most other folks, don't realize the time and cost of materials it requires to make one.

When I am asked to make one nowadays for relatives I ask them to pay for materials. When they hear how much, they usually lose interest.

This may sound a little callused but with a number of relatives that hunt, it can get expensive in a hurry and if all of my time is spent making knives for them, I have NO TIME left for other folks.

C Wilkins
 
thanks for all of the ideas! i think I will kinda copy Neil's hunter design, but add my own touch to it. I don't mind making knives for family. I told the kid it would be about $100, $125 and he didnt even blink an eye. He works on cars and thinks $400 for a special bumper is a good deal, so he doesnt really care about the cost. The hunting knife for my uncle will be pretty cheap, probably just the cost of the stag handle and heat treat. The boot knife cost will more than balance out the steel cost, so I won't lose $$! It will cost about $50 to make the boot knife, not counting time, as I am just learning still, so if I sell it for $125, I will make $75, which will cover the cost of the hunting knife. I already made a letter opener for my brother and he wants a folder from a kit now. I will buy some 50 grit ceramics from McMaster-Carr, along with the a-2 tool steel. It is cheaper in jantz, but takes a lot longer to get, so it evens out, in my book! The only bad thing is that I have to move my operation outside because of all of the dust. I just remembered another mistake in knife making. "Whats that funky smell???" OH SH%T!!!! Thats the steel!!!!" and "Hmmm...should the steel steam like that???
 
that's a pretty good price for a custom knife.
speeking of car parts. you should see the price on corvette parts, the bolt for a t-top lock was $5. $5 for a bolt!

[This message has been edited by magnum .44 (edited 06-27-2000).]
 
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