Talonite

Walt2

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I'm not sure just how to word this but here goes. Does all Talonite have the same properties? (I'm not sure if the word alloy would fit here). In other words should the Talonite that Tom Mayo uses have the same structure that the Talonite used by Camillus does? I have a Camillus Talonite EDC that I have been using for about 7 weeks now and this material is definitely something different than anything I have ever used before.
 
I think there is only one source for Talonite, one producer that is. Tom switched to Stellite 6K because the price of Talonite doubled recently :eek:
 
All Talonite is the same. It does not matter if it used by Camillus or by a custom maker, it is the same material. The Talonite knives offered by Camillus are a relatively inexpensive way to test how the alloy works in a knife.

stjames
You may want to check your facts. I have been the exclusive dealer for Talonite since September 2001. My price for Talonite is the same as Rob Simonich who sold it before me. There has been no price increase. You also might ask Tom Mayo if he has switched exclusively to 6K.
 
Chuck,
Please send Tom lots and lots of Talonite. We don't want anything to delay his production of TNT's.

Patiently waiting until some time next year :eek: for my TNT with Timascus handles.
 
Thanks for the replies Chuck and Stjames. As I said I have never handled Talonite before and it seems pretty soft. Will loose shaving edge rather quickly and edge seems to have a tendency to roll rather easily, although the edge can be brough back rather quickly with a strop and some green compound.
 
Originally posted by Chuck Bybee
stjames
You may want to check your facts. I have been the exclusive dealer for Talonite since September 2001. My price for Talonite is the same as Rob Simonich who sold it before me. There has been no price increase. You also might ask Tom Mayo if he has switched exclusively to 6K.
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Tom straitened me out, good to hear he is back on the T!
 
I have several knives from as many Makers. They all seem to have the same "cutting duration" but the "shaving edge" seems to last longer on the thicker beveled blades. The 'Cuda Talon and EDC are "Best buys" in Talonite. I am eagerly awaiting my Blackwood Talonite Hybrid and hopefully a Carson F4 in Talonite.
 
I am digging up an old thread. talonite never caught on imho. is it because of low edge retention?
thanks
 
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I'm guessing cost was the real reason it never became more popular. More specifically, cost to performance ratio. Now that Spyderco has started using H1 there's even less of a market niche for Talonite.
 
danova said:
The Talonite knives offered by Camillus are a relatively inexpensive way to test how the alloy works in a knife.
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They WERE, back when they were still in production. Now that Camillus is gone the prices of their talonite knives has risen quite a bit.
 
I have seen a couple talonite blades for 200 dollars but h1 is cheaper. what would talonite edge retention be similar to? does h1 have better edge retention?
 
Depends on what kind of edge you are looking for. Talonite and Stellite will hold a working edge for a long time. It will not hold a hair splitting razor edge for very long compared to steel. It is relatively soft and the edge rolls before wearing away. Just one of those compromises. If you want thin edges with high sharpness for a long time, its not for you. If you want a working sharpness for nearly forever, it's pretty good.
 
i have a ralph 4" talonite maxx and while it holds an edge fairly well, a lot better than ti or really low class steels its not imho as good as say 154CM or similar,

i dont know why it didnt catch on, lotsa folks thought it was the bomb back in '00 or so, it just seemed to kinda fade away from the mainstream, cost was probably at least one reason, IIRC talonite added $150 or $200 to the price of a maxx making the final price close to $800.
 
thread resurrection. In reference to the J-man resurrecting Lazarus.
 
Talonite is a proprietary name for Stellite 6BH. Stellite 6K is harder and more expensive. A file will not scratch 6K even though it Rockwells in the mid forties (C scale). The wear resistance is achieved by the inclusion of many carbides (mostly Chrome and Cobalt) which do not resist the diamond pyramid of the Rockwell tester but nevertheless impart tremendous resistance to abrasion. The last prices I saw on Stellite were $100/lb for 6B and $265/lb. for 6K. David Boye pours 6K blades for his Boye Dendritic Cobalt knives.
 
quote (edge seems to have a tendency to roll rather easily) Thats why i didnt care for it, i had a talonite edc & if the edge hits something hard it rolls real fast,compared to 154cm ats-34,i was worried i would keep sharpening it & wear the original edge away too quick.
 
boye knives look like they would preform much better than taonite. the fixed blades are understandably expensive but the folder are cheap. thanks for the info guys.
 
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