Taper Frame Out Bowie, with Rounded Pin's

D lisch

D lisch

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This is the second knife out of three that I am doing to practice the rounded pins for my competition bowie. I would like to thank Bert F., Bruce B., and Matt D. for their input on rounded pin's. It was a combination of all their advice that made me successful with the pins. Tricky little buggers. This knife is 12 1/2" and the best fit up I have done yet.
Thanks for any input or thoughts.
 

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Love it! In fact, all the knives you've posted pictures of look really great to me.
 
D lisch said:
I would like to thank Bert F., Bruce B., and Matt D. for their input on rounded pin's. It was a combination of all their advice that made me successful with the pins.
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Successful is a relative term. Your steel looks to be executed masterfully, but the knife shapes, specifically the handles, remind me of the very beginning work of many who have posted here.

Since you have access to Burt Foster, Bruce Bump or Nick Wheeler, why don't you copy one of their handles that you like EXACTLY instead of trying to muddle through your own designing, until you get a feel for it.

The pin PLACEMENT specifically looks out of balance, and place.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
You my friend are off the mark. this handle is light and lively. Perfectly balanced. It has a sweet palm swell and fast action, very light. I did not come by the design lightly, but I am maker enough to come up with my own designs, and would put one of my knives up against one of yours any day.
 
D lisch said:
You my friend are off the mark. this handle is light and lively. Perfectly balanced. It has a sweet palm swell and fast action, very light. I did not come by the design lightly, but I am maker enough to come up with my own designs, and would put one of my knives up against one of yours any day.
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I am not a maker(primarily), but a buyer/collector/user.....this is not a "make-off"....makers usually post pictures of their work in THIS forum to see why people would or would not buy.

Am pointing out why I wouldn't buy it.....do you want to compare this knife against the knives that I DID buy? If that is the case, I'm your huckleberry.

"Perfect balance", huh? Usually when someone refers to something that they did themselves as "perfect", they are too close to it to see that it might not be.

NOT impugning your work, Mr. Lisch....but won't blow smoke up your butt either....Nick splashed you onto the Forum....so you will "enjoy"increased scrutiny.....when you hit the mark squarely, many, many will come out with kudos...it is expected that you will rock the house....until that point.......

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
If that is the case, I'm your huckleberry.
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STeven,
I am getting the popcorn hot.

Mr. Lisch, I wish you the best of luck in your new endeavor.

I like the concept of a framehandle.

I hate the pins.
 
I love the blade - very striking pattern.

I am not stuck on the pins - I don't doubt that they have been executed very well indeed, but aesthetically, they lend the handle an imbalanced look to my eye. Perhaps it's the grouping of 5 pins then 4 - like you rolled a 9 with a pair of dice - or just the way they (don't) flow with the pattern in the ironwood.

One domed pin in the middle would have been my preference. On top of the boldly patterned blade, boldly patterned guard, highly figured ironwood and handle frame, the pins just strike me as a bit much.

Just stating my preferences.

Roger
 
I like the handle shape as well as the overall design of the knife (love the guard!), though not a real fan of rounded pins...

And I, in my profession, live daily with the fact that everyone has their own tastes. As any skillful chef knows, success comes from following what tastes good to themselves! :D

-Michael
 
but I am maker enough to come up with my own designs, and would put one of my knives up against one of yours any day.
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This stuck in my craw.

I guess you don't realize that many collectors know a lot more about knives and designing knives than you do at this point in your career.

I will turn the tables on you.

How many $1000+ knives have you bought in your tenure in the knife business?
 
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And I, in my profession, live daily with the fact that everyone has their own tastes. As any skillful chef knows, success comes from following what tastes good to themselves! :D

-Michael
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Michael, you know that there is a big difference between a good knife, and a good meal.

There is "buy", "ahhhhhh, maybe" and "no buy" in knives. Many of us make the decision to buy or not buy in less than a minute. Have seen your collection link, and we have, ahem, different tastes.

Nobody seems to have posted yet that they want to buy this knife....and that is as telling as anything.......would you buy it, Michael, if you did not find the price unattractive?

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
This is the FIRST of your knives that I have not really liked.

Say 5 out of 6 is a good score no matter what you are doing.
 
Hehehehe.....STeven, indeed my collection is composed of knives that I like (or liked :D ), not what is 'in' or 'investment conscious' in some current circles.

Certainly it would be unrealistic to expect that my choices could start to satisfy your...ahem...tastes. :)

That being said, if a customer enjoys a product, be it a knife or a meal, then there is a good chance for success. It is the same.

Both my and Mr. Lisch's professions are dependent on the 'tastes' of our respective clients, and yes, in both professions, there is a big difference between listening carefully to clients' various thoughts on one's product...and losing one's own vision to other's tastes.

Some try to cook for the masses, we cook for the top 2%....again, probably not your...ahem...tastes

As to whether I'd buy the knife...if I were currently in the market for a beautiful, well-made fixed blade I just might! :D

YMMV, mine certainly does

-Michael
 
I have held and inspected this one. Its very well made and the fit and finish is up there with the best. Dave is right about the way it handles, very quick and light. I like the handle too, especially the way it feels. If it were mine I would have used smaller pins but for a "user" I think Dave is right on with the number and size of them.
 
Thank you for your valuable opinions.

Your input helped me as in my post I stated this was a practice knife, to practice the pins, for my competition bowie. Here are some pics of my competition bowie, I had planned rounded pins, I am now reconsidering, and as always am interested in your opinions. This knife is in it's ruff form and is in no way completed.
 

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Loosing the pins and adjusting the guard (a bit) makes it in my eyes a much more attractive knife. :thumbup:

As for performance and balance I can't give you an opinion unless I could handle it.

Marcel
 
Please do not take this badly but I do not care for the arrangement of the pins. I would like to see a different guard also. But your talent seems endless
 
I think the handle on this knife could be a lot more attractive, but since it has been done for practice, I am not going to judge it in the same way I would a knife that was made for a customer.

I like the guard, but don't think the choice of steel compliments the blade. They look mismatched to me. You did a very nice job of tapering the tang and fitting the wood. You also did a good job of doming the pins. The blade looks great.
 
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