Target Shooters........Advice needed

Garth Reckner

Garth Reckner

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Some guys at the shop are getting into fancy, super accurate 22 rifles. This is a new genre of shooting for me and not sure what to get. Cooper, Anshutz, Volquartsen? Any advice would be much appreciated.

For those of you that know, can a 10/22 be turned into a super accurate gun. I have a few that I have upgraded but not getting the uber accuracy that other have with there fancy 22s. Is this one of those cases where a bolt action will win 99 times out of 100?

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Garth
 
Talked to a guy today who has sank about $900 in his 10/22. Aftermarket barrel, trigger, stock, etc and said he can shoot 50 rounds through a quarter inch hole at 50 yards.

10/22s can be pretty accurate.

Savage make some nice, decently cheap, bolt actions that shoot amazing, throw a cryo job and a re crwon and you have a damn good rifle.

Older Kimber 22 rifles are pretty ncie as well.



But.....Coopers are just awesome :o



How far are you planning on shooting? Close range amazingly small targets and groups, or are you looking to push the capabilities of a 22 and say shoot 200 yards?

I've been on a kick on the latter option shooting my 22 Buckmark as far as I have the space. 60 yards isn't terrible but I'd like to try 100 and out :D
 
After Jerry acquired my Ruger Race Rifle I had no .22 target gun so I picked up the Ruger Target Tactical. I then sent it, as I'd done with the RRR, to Randy at CT-Precision in CT. He did his magic and I'm now shooting 10 rounds into a dime at 50 yards and know I can tighten up the grouping. I'm going back to the range tomorrow to continue testing by adjusting the torque on the stock screw.

If you want to spend the bucks it's hard to beat a complete Volquartsen but I won't discount the amazing abilities of the truly custom 10/22.
 
There is a growing movement toward accurate 22's and a lot of people move toward the competition rifles. This is an easy choice because it allows you to spend more money hoping for better accuracy! The truth is that a stock 10/22 with Techsights (mini m1a sights) can outshoot 99% of the guys out there as long as the foundation is solid. I can't emphasize enough the value and usefulness of the Appleseed Project. These guys will teach you things you never thought possible! They teach long rifle fundamentals so well that the army has started bringing them to bases and reteaching the soldiers. Plus they are strong advocates of the personal responsibility of all Americans to learn riflemanship and be good citizens.
A good GI Web sling, 10/22 with Techsights, and consistent ammo will do wonders.
 
That brings up another question. Is 22 ammo that different? I know that in larger calibers ammo can have a huge effect on accuracy. Does the same hold true with rimfire ammo?

Garth
 
10/22s can be extremely accurate

you will always get better accuracy stock from bolt actions though

I bought a 10/22, I sunk about 200 or so into about a year or 2 after I bought it. It made the group about half or 1/4 the size at 100 yards

so about 3-6 inches or so

if I shoot off a bench rather than off hand, it is smaller

Garth, Ammo makes a HUGE difference, with the above rifle that I was talking about you could probably half the group size with good ammo, those groups were with really cheap bulk ammo. I havent used but one brand of high quality, Lapua.....I liked it a lot

M67, I know a guy who dumped more than the 900 you were talking about into one, he has told me that in competitions he has won more money than he has put into the gun.....he is teaching me to shoot whenever we go shooting
 
It's practically impossible to make a 10/22 as acurate as a well built bolt rifle. That said there's quite a few that with a match barrel and a bit of tuning will put 5 shots into a half inch hole at 50 yards on a fairly regular basis, at that point the ammo. wind conditions, shooter, scope paralax etc, are bigger issues than the gun for anyone but the best shooters. The trouble is 10/22's aren't consistent, you might get one that will manage that with a simple barrel swap, others will have you running around in circles and 3000 dollars later you'll wish you'd just bought a real match rifle.
 
yoda4561 said:
It's practically impossible to make a 10/22 as acurate as a well built bolt rifle. That said there's quite a few that with a match barrel and a bit of tuning will put 5 shots into a half inch hole at 50 yards on a fairly regular basis, at that point the ammo. wind conditions, shooter, scope paralax etc, are bigger issues than the gun for anyone but the best shooters. The trouble is 10/22's aren't consistent, you might get one that will manage that with a simple barrel swap, others will have you running around in circles and 3000 dollars later you'll wish you'd just bought a real match rifle.
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I've seen them at 1/4 inch groups regularly, but it was one of the ones that had 3000 grand dumped into it
 
The CMP (civilian marksmanship program) located at Camp Perry is just a few miles away from Toledo! Check their website. They usually have some Kimber .22LR competition rifles as surplus.
 
Garth Reckner said:
That brings up another question. Is 22 ammo that different? I know that in larger calibers ammo can have a huge effect on accuracy. Does the same hold true with rimfire ammo?

Garth
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Some Wolf 22 match ammo is over $700 a brick.

I'll let you decide :p
 
5000. So 14 cents a round. Bout the same as reloaded 9mm after a while.
 
crazyengineer said:
ya, thats not too bad for target ammo

when its $.50 per round for .22lr then its expensive
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For me, if I can't get a brick for $20 or under it's expensive :o

10/22 with cheap Federal, Winchester, or Remington ammo shooting dragonflys at 20 yards is good enough for me.


But, there is some serious 22 ammo out there and the price is just.....damn :eek: But I'm sure so is the results.
 
M67 said:
For me, if I can't get a brick for $20 or under it's expensive :o

10/22 with cheap Federal, Winchester, or Remington ammo shooting dragonflys at 20 yards is good enough for me.


But, there is some serious 22 ammo out there and the price is just.....damn :eek: But I'm sure so is the results.
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The bulk ammo like that is what I use.....I'm too much of a cheap SOB to get the good stuff.

you can definitely tell a difference between cheap ammo and match grade ammo when you are on a bench rest. match grade is good for just that....match grade (my opinion).
My opinion is to hunt, your best using something that is like 10 bucks per box of 50 or 100.....good hollow point ones

for plinking 15 bucks for 500 is a good number to me
 
The trick is having a good barrel with a special tight match chamber, and use proper ammo. If you do this to a 10/22 it can do well enough but might always fall a little short of an Anschutz. The things that make 10/22's super expensive are all of the extra things such as trigger, stock, scope, etc. A good barrel isn't all that expensive.

If you are trying to fit into and compete with a group, it is best to just look at their equipment and get something similar or better. Trying to bring a 10/22 up to that level might end up costing as much and bring much more frustration.

You didn't say what kind of competition this is. For some shooting sports the equipment is important, for others it isn't. For instance if you are position shooting such as standing, neeling and prone, then it is more the shooter than it is the equipment.
 
a good barrel makes a huge difference in a 10/22, I put a Green Mountain Barrel on mine and it made a really big difference and the price wasn't too bad either


out of curiosity BDmicarta, do you have any recommendations for trigger assembly?

that is the only thing (as well as bolt etc..) that I haven't changed in mine
 
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