Telescope for Amateur Astronomy

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I've wanted to acquire a really good telescope for years so I'm asking for advice. Any experts here who can steer a newbie toward the best product? I can spend up to several k if necessary to get something good. Where should I start? Refractor, reflector, what?
 
gajinoz, Thanks very much, sir. I just visited the site and added it to my favorites. Now I'll sign out of BF in a bit and do some serious reading.
 
AZWaterRat, Thank you, sir. I have thoroughly explored the Orion site and I'm on tabs for one of their 15 inch reflectors coming out in June. So, today, went to the Meade site where they have factory reconditioned units for about half price, but still with a full factory warranty, and ordered one. We shall see what we shall see (pun intended).

I've wanted to get into some star gazing for years and finally decided to take the plunge. I have a few acres here in NM in a semi rural and fairly dark area of the county so why not? We have a lot of spectular nights here with the Milky Way and other sights visible with the naked eye. You can almost read newsprint outside during a full moon here so even a somewhat low powered scope (70 to 100X) should provide a heck of a show. Thanks again.
 
I keep wanting to take the plunge myself, but scopes have to be the most perfectly segmented market I've ever seen. There is no sweet spot with scopes, the climb in quality and features is very linear. It drives someone like me nuts because I always went to feel like I've found the sweet spot and got the most bang for my buck.
 
While you're spending money, ( :) ), get yourself one of the latest iPhones. There is a very nice astronomy app for it. Start the app, give it your location, hold it up to the sky and it will tell you what objects you might be able to see there.
 
Check out cloudy nights forums and ask for advice there http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=

So many variables in the decision to get a scope, Bigger scopes may "see" more but are much heavier and difficult to set up and wait for cool down. You might only find yourself using it once or twice a year. I have always felt the 8" dobsonian to be the best balance of light gathering, portability and price.

Also get ready to be underwhelmed, Even the big scopes won't give you that detailed picture view of planets etc, like you see printed on the sides of cheap telescope boxes.
 
Also get ready to be underwhelmed, Even the big scopes won't give you that detailed picture view of planets etc, like you see printed on the sides of cheap telescope boxes.

You mean I'm not going to see Martians sailing their boats down the canals?

What a disappointment!
 
Our Astronomy club has several nice telescopes, However, a lot of fun can be had with a decent pair of binoculars for star gazing. Much wider view and images are right side up. I tend to use binos more than the telescope for most near earth objects.
 
I got a good used Meade 14" on AstroMart, a forum for telescope junkies. Lots of good stuff, often upgraded, at fair pricing.
 
I've wanted to acquire a really good telescope for years so I'm asking for advice. Any experts here who can steer a newbie toward the best product? I can spend up to several k if necessary to get something good. Where should I start? Refractor, reflector, what?

Much depends on what you prefer to see and where you plan to observe from. I have been playing with telescopes for a number of years, and no matter which you buy, or how little/much you spend, there will always be more interesting targets then you can see in a lifetime; and, all of them will dissapoint you if your expectations are set on seeing Hubble-like views. Ideally, you should plan to spend 25% of your budget on the optical tube, 25% on the mount, 25% on the eyepieces, and 25% on accessories (like a decent pair of binoculars, a good finder scope, and some maps, software, and reference books.

Avoid spending money on goto features unless you are really working with a hefty budget. Most of the lower end stuff is iffy and hard to use, and you would be better off investing that money on a good solid mount and better optics. About the only one that is truely a plop and play is the TAK mount; the rest will require some alignment and leveling, even with the GPS; and, a tak telescope can cost as much as a house.

http://www.takahashiamerica.com/

Also, forget about photography for the moment. It is a very expensive and advanced part of the hobby; best left for those who have mastered the basics and who like to spend most of their time playing with computer imaging programs. However, if you believe that photography is where you would eventually like to go, you should consider that a good stable tracking mount should be your starting point; and that in order to get the most out of that, your scope will tend to be relatively small relative to the mounts rating so as to maximize stability. You might want to consider a good APO refractor.

My largest telescopes are 10" newtonian F5, and a 10" Cassegrain f17; but, I find myself using far smaller scopes most of the time, becuase they are faster and easier to set up and take down. Also, although I am a visual astronomer I prefer using an EQ mount over an Alt/Az or dobsonian. The tracking is far better and that means I get more potential out of my tube.

Other things to look out for:
1) Widefield scopes - especially newtonians - many of them suffer from serious coma issues which will really limit there useful range.

2) Anything that is sold as a telescope set. It only means that you will be saddled with a bunch of near useless inferior components.

PS check out Stellarium.org, they have a nice freeware planetarium that will help you to get oriented with the night sky.

n2s
 
I got one of the Meade models that uses a battery pack and electric motors to track the object you're looking at.

Just put in your GPS coords where you're at, and pick the object you want to view.

The scope swings around and tracks it.

You'd be surprised how handy that is, cause this ball we live on is SPINNIN'
 
My Gosh! Thanks to all! I've read every reply and they are, as usual in BF, to the point and common sense. After reading the posts and studying on the web, I've ordered two scopes, one from Meade for star gazing, an ETX 125 PF with 'goto,' and a 127mm spotting scope from Orion for sky gazing but also as a distant 'viewer/snooper' for evidence of criminal activity. The Orion high magnification/resolution spotter scope with camera should be an excellent viewer/photo/video provider so we (local Sheriff's Dept) can cause some serious problems for local drug importers/dealers/cookers.... Again, thanks!
 
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