Tell me about Eden, NSW. Possible May-June visit.

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G'day mates. I'm in Australia quite a bit although I don't recreate much 'cause I'm always at work. And the family has never been. I'm hoping to correct those two situations this year in May-June with a two week holiday. Hiring a car, staying in hotels, eating at restaurants and bakeries...

What I'm doing is coming up with a list of four of five different one-week tours, and the Wife and Kid get to pick two. :D
Probably we'll end up playing it by ear when the trip gets near, and staying flexible to adjust for day-to-day weather and moods once we arrive. Trying to avoid regions that are in serious wet seasons in May-June and congested touristy spots. Mostly we want to tour around and see the country - beaches, tidal pools, forests, water falls, mountains... We're most interested in walking tracks, archaeological and historic sites, nature reserves, and national parks. We'll have to a couple of 'city' things at some point, like a museum and zoo. But resorts, over-developed oceanfronts, crowded city beaches, and tour-bus stops are not our thing. We're not caravanning though, so we can't get too far into the bush. :cool:

My top choice is a motor tour down the coast south from Wollongong. I realize it's not the ideal time for visiting that region, but it won't be horribly cold, will it? Should be the off-season so not many other visitors, right? I've never been farther south than the Bawley Coast and Bateman's Bay. Good scenery farther south, by Eden? Not too touristy or ritzy down there is it? Acceptable hotels and restaurants in the area, that aren't too dear?

I'm guessing it would take a week to tour from Sydney/Campbelltown, exploring the national parks along the way, down the coast to Eden, and back through Canberra (Dinosaur Museum).

Other possibilities are up around Mackay, the Blue Mountains, or maybe Cairns.
I'd love to explore the coast from Perth to Adalaide, but that'll be best a different trip, a different time of the year.
 
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Liven this up with a picture? Bateman's Bay, September 2012.

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Just made the booking. I'll be somewhere :confused: in Australia from June 1 - June 15.
 
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Bob I will need some time to reply to your questions.
I get about, almost non stop. I know you have about 15 days.
What about cash/money, $200 a day would be OK most days - some days it may be $400 (you $$$ is looking good for your holiday.
We could also talk on a landline / phone; I only pay $0.10 a call to the USA - So I could phone you some days...

I would say one or two days in Sydney would be a good start – The Opera House, Darling Harbour - Zoo, Aquarium and a cruise of the harbour (from King street) , a must.
A day or two looking and walking around the Blue Mountains is a must do, the walks are very good.
Canberra is full of things to do, and again you could stay there for two days maybe even three.
Driving down the South Coast from Sydney, could take four days for a nice round trip.

The Great Ocean Road from Melbourne driving west is a good drive. However, that is a long way to drive and could take a week or more from Sydney and back.

I do not like Cains, Port Douglas (a nice drive north from Cains) is much better – Air tickets, accommodation and a boat out to the reef could cost big $$$s.
In June it could also rain every day you’re there, rain in Queensland can be; very wet and lots of it in a very short time.

Let me know if you were thinking about driving most of the time. Flying around Australia, can be expencive... Ken
 
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Thanks for the comments.

I would say one or two days in Sydney would be a good start – The Opera House, Darling Harbour - Zoo, Aquarium and a cruise of the harbour (from King street) , a must.
I've already been to Sydney a few times, and we're not too interested in city stuff. Still, we ~must~ hit a zoo and aquarium somewhere along the way.

A day or two looking and walking around the Blue Mountains is a must do, the walks are very good.
Absolutely. We'll play that by ear when we arrive, and decide based on the weather forecast. And if the weather is crap with cold rain, I'd like to ride the train through the mountains there.

Canberra is full of things to do, and again you could stay there for two days maybe even three.
Depending on what other museum(s) we hit, the National Dinosaur Museum is on the list. If the weather sucks on the coast and puts a damper on exploring, we'd be looking for someplace with more indoor opportunities, like Canberra.

Driving down the South Coast from Sydney, could take four days for a nice round trip.
That's just what I'm thinking. Explore the Illawara, rain forest walks, tidal pools, beaches, lighthouses... Stay a day in Eden, and take a boat ride. Head back through Canberra.

I do not like Cains, Port Douglas (a nice drive north from Cains) is much better
That's a big tip, thanks!

Let me know if you were thinking about driving most of the time. Flying around Australia, can be expencive...
We would only fly if we were taking a big leap somewhere, like Queensland. Round trip from Sydney to Mackay, for example, seems pretty reasonable.
Otherwise we're planning on hiring a car and doing our own driving.
 
He'll be 8 when we travel. He's a pretty good boy as long as we keep him fed and watered. Does OK at museums and aquariums. He even does well on long car rides as long as he gets exercised regularly. Traveling with kids is like traveling with a dog. :D

He's a New Mexico boy so rain forests, tropical animals, waterfalls, and oceans will all be new to him. :thumbup:
 
Half Day drive from Sydney to Wollongong through the National Park:
Wattamolla: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...FoQsAQ&biw=1311&bih=518#q=wattamolla&tbm=isch
Sea-cliff Bridge: https://www.google.com.au/webhp?tab=ww#q=sea+cliff+bridge
Stanwell Tops: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...s8_pe2IB7GPgagM&ved=0CFoQsAQ&biw=1311&bih=518

Half day drive to Canberra, from Wollongong – Kangaroo Valley: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...Q&biw=1311&bih=518#q=kangaroo+valley&tbm=isch


Canberra War Memorial: http://www.awm.gov.au/
Canberra National Museum : https://www.google.com.au/#q=national+museum+of+australia
Canberra private zoo: https://www.google.com.au/#q=canberra+private+zoo
Canberra Questacn for the kids: http://www.questacon.edu.au/
Canberra Black Mountain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mountain_Tower

Two day drive west of Sydney:
Blue Mountains (halfway to Jenolan Caves) very good walks and things to see: https://www.google.com.au/#q=blue+mountains
Jenolan Caves (overnight stay) https://www.google.com.au/#q=jenolan+caves
You could drive south from Jenolan Caves towards Goulburn and on to Canberra. Some of the roads in this area are un-sealed roads.
Buy the way, I will not drive a rent-a-car unless it has full insurance (half insurance ($500 excess) is a must.
Some ret-a-car companies, do not permit you to drive on un-sealed roads.

All the way down the east coast of NSW would be the place for you.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...pJaSViAel9oHADg&ved=0CGsQsAQ&biw=1311&bih=518

GPS unit for your car would also be a must for driving around in unknow areas, you can rent them with your car.
 
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Traveling with kids is like traveling with a dog.

I still drive about 120,000km a year, and often fly around Australia.
When my kids were young I use to take them for three week drives (Tasmania, Great Ochen Road, Aryers Rock, Cook Town (north of Cains) etc,etc.

Most of your Accommodation in these areas should cost about A$100 to A$150 a day. (A$110 most 0f the time) Sydney A$200 or more.

I can send you some motel book, with 100s of places to stay – all show prices etc.
You can always find a place to stay the next night, using them.
 
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I've seen most of the coast from Sydney to Wollongong. Beautiful for sure.
The Canberra - Wollongong drive looks very interesting. Will check it out more and see how it fits into our logistics. Thanks!
I spent a couple of days this year in the Blue Mountains, bushwalking and sightseeing. There's at least a few more day's worth of visiting there I'd like to do. I know Wife (science teacher) would like to follow Darwin's Walk. And I have a loop hike in my mind from Leura Cascades to the Three Sisters.
A co-worker took his family to Jenolan Caves, and highly recommends it also.

Most of your Accommodation in these areas should cost about A$100 to A$150 a day. (A$110 most 0f the time) Sydney A$200 or more.
That's my experience as well. Work often puts us up in the Quest Apartments. They're quite a bit more expensive, but it's nice to have the in-room laundry and extra space.

I can send you some motel book, with 100s of places to stay – all show prices etc.
You can always find a place to stay the next night, using them.
I travel with a laptop, useful for making reservations, and have successfully used Expedia and Bookings.com in Australia. No problems yet, even at some odd out-of-the-way cabins and hotels.

GPS unit for your car would also be a must for driving around in unknow areas, you can rent them with your car.
I'll consider it. I generally find it very easy to navigate the Australian highways using just an atlas, or by following my nose. There's been a time or two though... :)
 
I find the GPS unit gets me out of treble quit often.
Last week it got me out of the Air Port car park in Tasmania - then later that night, 15 miles across town (in the dark) to a house half a mile in off the road.
They tell you when you will arrive, when you have a 14 hour drive ahead of you (like one I did last week)
I spent a short time in every state and territory of Australia last month; Tasmania, King Island in Bass Strait, Norfolk Island.
This week I will be out around Inverell and Dubbo (116+f temps yesterday)
Now-a-days I will not drive a car unless I have my GPS. Mobile phones and computers do not work too well, away from the Coast. (Mountain areas – bush walking etc)
I hope this gives you something to think about… Ken
 
G'day Bob, only just read your personal message mate, but it looks like Ken has you on the right track....
I'm in Bendigo Victoria at the moment in the Golden Triangle, doing some prospecting..Bendigo/Ballarat was the richest gold mining areas in the World from the 1850's on and much early Settlement Architecture here in addition to being able to go down into the bowles of a working Gold Mine, the Deborah Gold Mine..etc...in June in this area the average high is C13.3 degrees and minimum C3.5 degrees and on average rains for 16 days in the month giving 39mm average...we have the Alpine Ski Resorts on Mount Hotham only 350kms away for variety..
I reckon for an experience of a lifetime, an 8 year old from New Mexico should be taken down in the White Pointer Shark Cage off my hometown base of Port Lincoln South Australia.....to see an 18' VW Kombi size 'fishy with its mouth open' come out of the debths at your small cage is something hard to forget..I used to have my June Allison snappy pants on under my wet suit....I used to send my mother- in- law down often but unfortunately she kept coming back!..lol..lol...they said we were scaring the white pointers...
Strewth! mate you have to learn our Lingo while you're here if you want us to understand your Yank draaaawl....
I personally love Cairns North Queensland as its central to the Natural Heritage area the 'Daintree' complete with Crocodile cruises in small boats....got to give the Crocodiles a sporting chance...nearby Kuranda in the rain forest is not to be missed, and you get there by Cable Car and return by puffing billy loco down the hairy mountain passes...Monarch butterflies and unique Tropics creatures to be seen...plus small village at the top very interesting...
It looks like Ken has given you a good itinerary so just ask me any questions you feel may compliment his info....my wife and I have dived on organised tour off Port Douglas on the Barrier Reef..un-bloody-liveable experience diving/snorkelling through the coral reefs with the colourfish marine life.. also glass bottom submarine type boat there you hop inside is also great for the family and you all remain dry...and see it all...very reasonable fees for what you see and do..
I took a pleasure trip the other day..I drove my wife to the airport!......
Hoo Roo from Oz. Ya'll have a nice trip now..ya hear?....
 
Wish I could be out prospecting right now! All our creeks are frozen over here. I've got my own pans even.
You out with a gold pan or metal detector?

I reckon for an experience of a lifetime, an 8 year old from New Mexico should be taken down in the White Pointer Shark Cage off my hometown base of Port Lincoln South Australia....

What's the weather like down there in the first half of June?
 
G'day Bob, if you Google: Shark Cage Diving Calypso Star or Shark Cage Diving Port Lincoln...you will see much youtube video held with very shaky hands....lol...there is also a Frequent Asked Questions under the Calypso Star Google will answer all your questions...no age limit and the youngest they've had go down so far was 4 years old....but the Pointer spat him out..said something about bloody sardines.....lol....
I use a Minelab GPX 5000 Gold detector, state of the art job, plus I use a Garrett Infinium LS for beach/relic work...I use a Gold Concentrator as well as pans...the gold concentrator works 10 times faster than panning and you get to sit on your derriere' in comfort and put the material through and the fines just concentrate in a catch tray..very civilized..and you don't lose any....I recently got back from a trip to Laanecoorie Victoria in the Golden Triangle with about 100 other grizzly old Gabby Hayes types..should have seen the nuggets they bring out after a few sherbets round the camp fire!....I took a magnifying glass to show mine!....I'm off to north of Kalgoorlie W.A. in May next year where there is likely plenty of gold action.....
Keep firing the questions to Ken and myself....Ken and I talk often on the phone....when I answer my phone ..eh?..Ken....Hoo Roo from Downunder
 
Just an update on travel plans, and to say thanks for all the suggestions. Initially I had wanted to keep the plans 'loose' and more flexible. Thinking about it more - traveling with a family, wanting to stay at more interesting accommodations, and not realizing we had planned our trip during the Queen's Birthday holiday weekend... I went ahead and made all of the hotel reservations. Even months ahead, the pickins for the long weekend were slim.

Any feedback on the following? Any off-the-track things to see and do near these locations? Anyone live nearby?

Sunday - land in Sydney, fly to Rockhampton.
Two nights in Yeppoon.
Two nights in Byfield.
Fly back to Sydney.
Night in Kiama.
Night in Kangaroo Valley.
Two nights in Malua.
Two nights in Eden.
Drive to Blackheath.
Four nights in Blue Mountains.
Fly home.

At least one day from the Blue Mountains we will take the train into Sydney. The Australian Museum is having a special dinosaur exhibit until July.
 
Hi Larry, have you changed your phone number?

Your quote: "my wife and I have dived on organised tour off Port Douglas on the Barrier Reef..un-bloody-bliveable experience diving/snorkelling through the coral reefs with the colour fish marine life."

Last time I went to Port Douglas I went out to a buoy about 15 miles off-shore.
http://www.reefsprinter.com.au/
I’m going back to Port Douglas next week; then off to New Gunnie for 3 weeks.

I flew out to King Island for lunch in a DC3 last month and then down to Hobart.
http://www.redballoon.com.au/flying.../historic-dc3-flight-and-lunch-at-king-island

Bob I have mailed you some tickets to the Maritime Museum, in Darling Harbour – your boy will love the ships and boats; the "Big Tickets" will give you entry to all the museum, ships, etc etc.
https://www.anmm.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=1355

There is also a Zoo at the King Street Walf. Good Food Hall on the Westen side of Darling Harbour, near the Marintime Museum. Good place to spend if its' raining.
 
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Thanks!

We are definitely spending a day in Sydney for the Australian Museum and their dinosaur exhibit. Don't want to spend the entire day in one museum though, so the Maritime Museum is just the thing for the rest of the day.

I've been to a similar maritime museum somewhere in Australia before... maybe Newcastle.

If we have two days in Sydney, the aquarium is on our list, and/or the Imax.

We have plans to hit a small wildlife park / zoo near Yeppoon, and maybe the croc farm there too.
http://www.cooberriepark.com.au/
http://www.koorana.com.au/
 
Bob, the Maritime Museum is like most museums, boring. The Newcastle Museum is very boring. The Western Australian Museum is very good, one of the best in the world.

However, we have a replica of James Cook’s Endeavour, a Submarine and a Destroyer your young boy will love all of them. (outside on the water)

I often spend time on The Endeavour, listing to the storeys they tell to the visitors – below decks your son will fell at home with the 5 foot ceilings.
You will have to bend a little, below decks.

At the King Street Wharf, you will also find a Zoo and a large bird Avery, close to the Aquarium.
Best food is on the western side of Darling Harbour, look for the Food Court, inside.
 
Koldgold, I was out of town for a few days' work in Arizona. When I returned there was an envelope awaiting with three Maritime Museum tickets enclosed. I can't say thanks enough, and we are definitely planning a day in Sydney to utilise them.
Thanks again, mate!
 
Let me know the Kiama dates - perhaps we could meet up and i could share local knowledge on. That would be handy on a tight schedule.
Weather and work permitting.
kangaroo Valley has canoes for hire -eaasy paddling .
 
On one hand I'd love to spend days exploring the backcountry of every National Parks in NSW. On the other hand I am traveling with Wife and 8-year-old son, we have a schedule to keep on account of lodging reservations, and we can't stay forever.

So if there were any off-the-tourist-track spots that are reasonably easy to access in the Kiama area, or better yet in the Malua or Bawley areas, I'd love to hear about them. Our hired car is a Toyota Kluger, so we won't be doing any serious 4x4 driving, but unpaved roads don't frighten me either.

Our preliminary plans for the Kiama area: The dates are set, but the activities are not.

Land in Sydney around noon on June 5th. Head down the coast through the Royal National Park, and arrive in Kiama where have a hotel close to the blowhole and lighthouse, Kiama Cove Boutique Motel. Doesn't look like a fancy place and doesn't get the greatest reviews, but the location is good and we're only there one night. Maybe meet up for a feed and a pint somewhere in the Mt. Kiera / Kembla / Wollongong / Kiama area on the 5th if you're going to be around?

June 6th, make a loop through the Illawara, starting at the Minnamurra Rain Forest. Illawara Fly Treetop Walk, Carrington Falls, Fitzroy Falls. And lodging that night is at the Lyrebird Ridge Organic Winery near Kangaroo Valley. Any better or additional suggestions for the Illawara area such as sightseeing or short bushwalk tracks?

June 7th, continue down the coast, two nights in Malua and two nights in Eden.

Lodging this trip was a bit of a give-and-take: I'd of rather stayed more flexible for on-the-fly changes in plans. But being a holiday weekend (I didn't realize that when we picked the travel dates) I'm glad we have confirmed reservations. I don't fancy sleeping in a carpark with Wife and Kid. :)
 
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