Tell Me About Poland

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My oldest son has been selected by Rotary International to spend his senior year in high school (next school year) as a foreign exchange student in Poland. We're both very excited about it (although I'm a bit saddened to have him leaving home a year sooner than I expected).

What sort of things should he start doing now to help him prepare for this trip? Obviously he'll be studying the language and culture, but I'm also looking for any input that may be helpful. Are there any special items he might want to take with him? Any other advice in general?

Thanks...
 
on such a well-sponsored educational experience...
where in Poland is he going?
not the hills nor the sea-coast is very likely, I guess...
Krakow, Warszaw, Torun? ...
any of these cities and towns is more or less the normal urban European student place... but if it's a smaller place, fishing and camping and having the matching knives is quite a good option... ;-)
Berlin is quite near the Polish border too, though not very near to any major cities or university towns...
that's the sort of thing that the question depends on, I guess...
t.
 
Tristram - We haven't gotten the details yet, they're still in the process of working those out.


The rest of you: :rolleyes: :p :p

:D :D :D
 
...there's not much to worry about, much less so than South America I dare say;
it's part of the EU now since last May,
and since the Rotary collects reports from their participants, I'm sure you'll find the previous experiences and contacts they can let you have most useful - I always did on exchange programs :-)
best of luck, and keep us posted
t.
 
I think it's a great way for him to get out into a larger world. Poland is a beautiful country with a lot of history and a very exciting current situation. It has adapted to life after Soviet domination very well, economically and socially. It is an asset to the EU and an ally to the US. Obviously this is a nation with great resources to offer the world, and great opportunities to offer its students.
 
Tell him to go hiking in the Tatras around Zakopane. While he's there, make sure to get some pozomki. Tell him to check out the art of Wyspianski and Matejko. And tell him to see Da Vinci's Lady with the Ermine. Tell him to go rafting on the Dunajec. Tell him to have dinner at Wierzynek and dessert at Mihalek. Tell him to go to mass with The Pope. Tell him to check out Wawel Castle. Tell him to go out dancing with the girls at the Universitet Jagiellonica. Tell him to visit Oswiciom (though it's not a fun trip, it is important to learn). Tell him to go easy on the Advocat.

Warn him to start studying the Polish language now, it's a tough one. Really.

--Mike
 
Sure there's a lot to be seen, but there's also quite a lot of plain boring and 'triste' countryside inbetween the seacoast and the mountains, the lakeside district and the national parks, the major cities and the old towns...
but the main thing is to live there, deal with the nice and welcoming, proud and independent, jazz-loving and broad-minded people...
and for that, I'd recommend an open mind, a bit of modesty and a carefulness not to come across as the stereotypical, big and loud and self-assured American, but to learn to fit into and get to understand a quite different culture, be in a minority, to respond to questions and opinions rather than blurting out one's own etc.... and for that, a quiet fortitude and patience if things get critical (and many Americans are shocked when learning the overwhelming European opinions, on current US foreign policy or of history - does he hold the typical American and somewhat bragging view, for instance, that America freed Europe from the Nazis, or does he know that in fact the Soviets did all the hard dirty work at incredible cost for years since Stalingrad and had rolled the German army back well into Poland before the second front was opened to save the West its share of Europe in the last months of the war? )
I'm sure he has all these qualities if he even considers living in Poland, but it's not always present in this forum, for instance :-)
So I'd go easy on that "ally of the US" thing, not to talk about the asset to the EU thing: it's not like the Polish people rushed to help invade Iraq, it was more like a pragmatic political decision of the government to position this rising nation...
best,
t.
 
Well, I didn't intend my answer to be a shallow sight-seeing list, as much as a sight seeing list that would facilitate learning and experiencing more deeply. If you go to mass with the Pope, you will learn about the profoundly Roman-Catholic aspect of the Polish people. If you check out the art of Jan Matejko, you'll learn a lot about Poland's history and Poland's cultural mores. If you hang out in the Tatras, you'll learn about Goralu culture. Etc.

In any case, about the Polish people (everything following is, of course, broad generalizations that do not apply to everybody):

The Polish population is pretty close to 100% Roman Catholic, and rather devout. (Jews used to be a major segment of the population, but many were murdered by Nazis in WWII, and almost all of the rest chose to leave after WWII. On a related subject, there is a huge amount of rabid anti-semitism among the Polish people. It's a minority of people, but a significant one; and those with that attitude are quite open and ardent about it.)

They are mostly an extraordinarily kind and generous people, and also very tough people.

Learning English is a major Polish activity (because English is seen as the de-facto language of international business), and so you can communicate pretty well with Poles in English. (Of course, they appreciate if you make an effort to learn Polish.)

They are generally not so fond of Russians and Germans.

They are quite capitalistically-minded.

They consider themselves freedom fighters. They consider themselves to have been the most rebellious against the Soviet regime. They note their significant role in helping the US gain independence from the British. They note their resistance to the Nazis. Etc.

In my experience, they do NOT hold the common European anti-American-foreign-policy opinions, and do NOT feel that their role in Iraq was political expediency. In my experience, they feel allied with the US as true freedom fighters and true capitalists, feel that they have been true friends of the Americans since Kosciusko for these reasons, and feel that they participated in Iraq because of the importance of fighting for freedom. If anything, they have a more untarnished view of the U.S. than I do.

They give a lot more priority to other things besides politics than we might be used to. For example, putting notable scientists and artists on their currency, instead of only politicians.

They do, indeed, love Jazz. They also have an odd predilection for cheesy disco techno-pop. And they like big band music, and classical waltzes.

They are generally pretty reserved, and will wait for you to prove yourself worthwhile before they open up.

They really like good poetry.

--Mike
 
Couldn't he get the same, well rounded Polish education in Hamtramck? Wouldn't even have to leave the US! :p
 
One of my biggest regrets from my time living in Berlin is that I never got to Poland. The GF & I would agree on a Friday night to spend at least a Saturday or a weekend and then in the morning, the phone would ring, her mother, sister or nephew would come over & the day was shot.
About an hour away by train & I never went- bummer. I had a couple of Polish private students that I tutored in English & they were really super folks.
Just a note to everyone- don't let opportunities slip away- there may not be a 'next week'.
 
Never been there myself but haven't really heard anything positive about Poland from my friends (or their friends). One apparently has to be careful not to step on somebody's proverbial toe as things are likely to end up nasty (heard a couple of interesting stories of local skin-heads beating the hell out of a full bus of tourists - then police van showed up ~15 men in full gear jumped out, 20 seconds of head bashing, they picked the skin-heads up and left the scene ... but that did little good to those who were beaten or stabbed already). It doesn't take much - and sometimes nothing at all, aside from just being in the wrong place at the right time - to end up with a busted head and what better way to do it if not a full-year visit of somebody aintheir "wisest" years with plenty of opportunities for trouble ? Alasi have't heard anything positive, i hope that doesn't scare you away too much -0 i imagine it would be the same walking at night downtown LA or some other big US city.
 
I would learn as much as I can about the Polish soccer teams, as soccer is the favored sport of the rest of the world. I am part polish, among many other ethnic heritages, and got my little bro a Polish soccer jersey, he is pretty big into soccer. Most of my family got taken out by the Soviets, same as my family in Lithuania (same thing happened to my family in America, my Blackfoot, Crow, Cherokee ancestors, but that's for another post). Anyway, I guess you would encounter gangs anywhere in Poland, but if your son is under 18 and would be taken in by a family, I am guessing that the family would take great care of him. Definitely brush up on his Polish, and go to Polands website for tourism. Check out some Polish newspapers online, and he should do okay. BTW they're probably not going to let him carry any knives over there.
 
I think a trip to Poland wouldn't be complete without visiting the camps at Auschwitz. It's important to keep the memory alive.
 
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