Ten commandments of knife use!

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Ten Commandments of knife use:


1. Knives are not screw drivers or pry bars, unless you are near death.
2. There are no magic knives, learn how to use it well. Defensive, skinning, woodcraft etc.
3. A sharp cheap knife is better than an expensive dull knife, learn how to sharpen.
4. A good sheath is as important as the knife.
5. Never lend your knife to anyone unless you are near death and they might be able to save you with it!
6. Always carry more than one knife.
7. A mad woman with a kitchen knife is a more serious threat than a famous knife fighter.
8. A small accessible knife is a more effective weapon than a large knife that is hard to reach.
9. When in doubt sever but don’t kill.
10. Don’t show off or scare people with your knife, they will some how get it from you.

I wrote this today let me know if I missed anything.
 
Ack, broke this commandment:
5. Never lend your knife to anyone unless you are near death and they might be able to save you with it!
and now I won't ever see it again *wipes a tear*

Nice list, haha 'tis so true
 
Everything that you wrote makes sence. Especialy number:5.Don´t ever lend your knife to anyone. If you vill get it back at all,it wouldn´t look the same as when you borrowed it out. Broken tips,chipped edges severly rust damages is only a few scenarios that have happened to me on my knives that i have got back.

Manowar
 
Originally posted by chrisaloia


1. Knives are not screw drivers or pry bars, unless you are near death.

...Or unless you're a diver, probably using a blunt-tipped knife.
 
Agree except for two points.

There do exist magical knives or the next best thing to them. I have custody of several.

And there are several folks I'd trust with my knives.
 
5. Never lend your knife to anyone unless you are near death and they might be able to save you with it!

I'm a generous man and frequently lend knives to other folks. I've yet to loose one or have it seriously damaged. I say, let the rest of the world see what a good knife is.


9. When in doubt sever but don’t kill.

In Oregon, that would send you to jail. In Oregon, as in many states, self-defense is very black and white. You may use deadly force, and, in Oregon, a knife is always considered deadly force, to defend yourself only if you think that your attacker is immediately capable of and immediately intends to cause you a great bodily injury and there's no practical way for you to escape. In such a situation, it's hard to justify using less-than-lethal force. To do so would be to imply that you have doubt, that you doubt that your attacker is capable of and/or intends to cause you a great bodily injury. But, if you have doubt, then it's really not a self-defense situation.

There have been several cases in Oregon where people have deliberately shot at attackers in what would otherwise have been legitimate self-defense situations, with deliberate intent to wound, shot into the leg deliberately, for example, and have subsequently been convicted of "unlawful wounding." Had they shot to kill, they would have been acquitted on grounds of self-defense.

This does not mean that you have to kill, but it does mean that deadly force must be used with deadly intent. In another classic Oregon case, a store owner returned to his store after hours one night to retrieve something he'd forgotten to take home. He entered from the back. He became aware that there was someone in the front of the store. The owner was a target shooter, so he went to his car and got a .22 target pistol he happened to have in the trunk. He went into the front of the store and the would-be robber confronted him with a knife. The whole thing was filmed by an anti-shoplifting camera. In clear response to the knife threat, the store owner fired one shot to center-of-mass with deadly intent. The robber fell to the ground and was motionless. Keeping his gun trained on the robber, the owner then moved slowly and cautiously toward the counter to use the phone there. The store owner was not surprisingly quite nervous, quite upset. The gun is a target-shooting gun with a hair-trigger. Somehow, almost a minute after the first shot, a second round got fired and hit the robber in the head. The medical examiner determined that the first shot had not killed the robber at all. Given prompt medical attention, he would most likely have survived. But, the second shot killed him. The store owner was convicted of man slaughter. Why? Because he shot a man (by accident, yes, which why it was not murder) who was not, at that point, a threat to him. Thanks to the camera video, the jury could clearly see that the first shot was justified self-defense and that the second one was an accident, but a shot nonetheless.

My points here are that A) In Oregon, a knife is considered deadly force. B) In Oregon, deadly force must be used with deadly intent. C) The situation can turn on a dime moment-to-moment. But, whatever you do, be positive about it -- no doubts. You need to be able to stand in front of a jury and swear that you lashed out with your knife (which is deadly force) because you were absolutely certain that at that moment, your attacker was capable of and intended to cause you a great bodily injury and that you could see no other alternative but to counter with deadly force.
 
points taken

It sounded good though:(

maybe I'll replace that one with never put good knives in dishwasher
 
maybe I'll replace that one with never put good knives in dishwasher

Actually, I disagree with that one too.

Dishwasher soaps are harsh and can corrode especially the very edge of a blade. So, don't use dishwasher soap or use one of the gentle soaps made for fine china and crystal.

Temperature is no problem. I measured my dishwasher and it got up to about 220F inside. To affect the temper of a blade, you need to raise the blade above the final heat-treament temperature. There are very few heat-treatment processes in use today that have a final temperature below about 350F. So, there's over 100F margin there.

Of course, other materials that may be on a given knife, fine wood especially, may not fare as well in the dishwasher, but that's another matter.
 
dishwashing knives are not recommended by the manufacturers and for good reason.

Chris Reeves is the only one I have ever heard of.

so many variables and actually temperature is a problem. I have had a few customers return henckels back after the handle broke during a dishwashing episode.

carbon steel isn't good in the dishwasher.


so as a commandment it can work

remember the original ten says "thou shall not kill", there are no buts. So every rule becomes situational for some.


you won't go to knife hell if you do.
 
Actually in the original Hebrew it reads closer to " thou shalt not murder."

Or alternatively "thou shalt not kill unlawfully".
 
Actually, in a defensive situation you do not shoot to kill, you shoot to "stop".

If that kills them, well, the rest is up to a jury/DA to determine if it was justified or not.

Cop do not get trained in how to kill people with their firearms. They "shoot to stop" the threat.

I see no jurisdictions in the US where you are allowed to "shoot to kill" someone even defensively. That may be the end result of the action taken in defense of one person but it is NOT the objective.

Brownie
 
Hmmm....

Let's see...Moses, carrier of the Big 10, had killed a slave in his younger years. So, how does that work?

Personally, I believe the "kill" in "Thou shalt not kill" to mean the shedding of innocent blood.

Else how would Joshua have brought the walls of Jericho down (which killed many)? Certainly not without God's condoning hand.
 
The 10 commandments of knives

Add to it - thou shalt not put a spending cap on knife purchases...:D
 
From what I understand of the Bible. The only killing (of another human) that is 'OK' is that which is sanctioned by God. Joshua was instructed by God to bring down the walls of Jericho.

I like the no spending cap one - d'ya think my wife will buy it??? Also do you think we need a religious holiday for knife knuts?
 
My favorites are:

1.- A sharp knife is dangerous, a dull knife is more dangerous.

2.- Keep it clean, dry and sharp.
 
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