Tennessee knife law

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Here is our law as copied from the Tennessee Codes Annotated

39-17-1307 Unlawful carrying or possession of a weapon-
(a)(1) A person commits an offense who carries with the intent to go armed a firearm,a knife with a blade length exceeding four inches (4"), or a club.

(2) An offense under section (a)(1) is a class C misdemeanor, except it is a class A misdemeanor if the person's carrying of a handgun occurred at a place open to the public where one (1) or more persons were present.

A class C misdemeanor , not greater than 30 days or a fine not to exceed $50, or both.

OK two important things. It does not differentiate between folders and fixed blades. Any knife with a blade exceeding 4". These things are only illegal if you carry them with the intent to go armed. If there is probable cause to believe you are carrying it with the intent to go armed you can be arrested. Probable Cause are facts or circumstances that would lead a reasonable person to believe a crime has been committed. It takes guilt beyond a reasonable doubt to get convicted. If you are carrying a blade over 4" in Tennessee you need to be able to show that you are not carrying it with intent to go armed. That is as a weapon. You need to articulate that it is a tool or you could be charged.

Also autos are illegal unless you are in the military or are a LEO. That is under 39-17-1302


39-17-1302 Prohibited weapons- (a) A person commits an offense who intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures, transports, repairs or sells:
(1) An explosive or explosive weapon
(2) A device principally designed, made or adapted for delivering or shooting an explosive weapon;
(3) A machine gun;
(4) A short barrell rifle or shotgun;
(5) A switchblade knife or knuckles; or
(6) Any other implement for infliction of serious bodily injury or death which has no common lawful purpose.
section (b)(1) says it is a defense if you are using it in your official duty as a LEO or military.


section (c)It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section which the person must prove by a preponderence of the evidence that:
(1) The persons conduct was relative to dealing with the weapon soley as a curio, ornament or keepsake, and if the weapon is a type described in subdivisions (a)(1)-(5), that it was in a nonfunctioning condition and could not readily be made operable; or
(2) the possession was brief and occurred as a consequence of having found the weapon or taken it from an aggressor.

(d)(1)An offense under subdivisions (a)(1)-(5) is a class E felony
(2) An offense under subdivision (a)(6)-(7) is a class A misdemeanor.


A class A misdemeanor is not more than 11 months 29 days in jail or a fine not to exceed $2500 or both.

A preponderence of the evidence in non legal terms means just enough to tip the scales. Think of it as a 51% chance that you didnt do it.

So you can have a switchblade if in a preponderence of the evidence you can say it is a curio, ornament or keepsake. Basically you can have one at home but you cant carry one on you.

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[This message has been edited by shootist16 (edited 09-06-2000).]
 
Here's a link to an interesting Tennessee knife case that I stumbled onto... from 1840! The case basically affirms that a law which made it illegal to carry a Bowie knife was consitutional.

This case is still cited by courts to show that the right to bear arms does not include all types of arms.
 
Sorry for the bump, but my questions pertain to Tennessee laws, so I figured better to use an existing topic than creating a new one.

Thanks for the summary of knife laws shootist. I wanted to run a few questions by you just so I don't do something illegal inadvertantly.

The knife summary you posted doesn't go into detail on specific types of knives (other than autos/switchblades), just that it has to be 4" or less. Does that mean things like Karambits, double edged knives, and other blade styles are fair game, so long as the blade does not exceed 4"?

I ask because some state laws specifically ban some blade styles, like those mentioned above (among others), and I just wanted to make sure I don't go pick something up that's not legal because I didn't do enough research or dig deep enough into the laws to find some specific clause!

As for intent to go armed, obviously that means I can't carry my 5" USAF pilots survival knife to, say, the theatre (since the blade exceeds 4" and there is no legit reason to have something like that in a place like that), but does it mean I can take it hiking or camping since it's being used as a tool rather than a weapon? Or is the law too iffy in this area to risk it?
 
Does anyone in Tennessee feel like writing their state representative about this?

It just seems sort of silly that I can pack a .44 magnum with a six inch barrel.
But a 4.5 inch knife is no-no.

Zippy (in Tennessee)
 
Burncycle said:
Does that mean things like Karambits, double edged knives, and other blade styles are fair game, so long as the blade does not exceed 4"?


Yep. Blade styles do not matter as long as it doesn't exceed 4"
 
Want to know whats really scary.Call the local police or SO and ask them what the legal pocket knife blade lengh is and see what happens.I did and I got 3",the width of you hand,its up to the officer,I dont know,no knife is legal if it in your pocket(whats up with that one) and anything but a switchblade.Now dont that make you feel so secure about knife cary in Tn.I actually carry a printed copy of the Tn code mentioned in my wallet.Its a sad day when you have to tell the police what the law is!
 
Dont complain,I used to and now im moving to the communist state of Georgia where no knife is legal. I would love to have my 4" blade back! You dont know what you got till its gone :(
 
Does the 4" measurement start from point A or point B?

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TedGamble said:
Does the 4" measurement start from point A or point B?

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Good question. I measure from point A, some measure from point B. As far as I know there isn't a definitive way.
 
Probably safest to assume Point B.

By the way, TN's law is about 15 years old - it replaced a much worse, very vague previous law. The current law was a hard-won political compromise endorsed by some major knife collectors and dealers. It's fairly reasonable and reasonably fair. Please DO NOT write your representative on this one- any change could easily be for the worse.

By the way, I have never heard of a law-abiding, non-dumb*ss-acting person having any legal/police problems over a pocketknife in Tennessee. If it happened to you, sorry, but it's the exception and not the rule here. Lawful, peaceable knife carry/use is pretty accepted here, as I see it.
 
Any updates on Tennessee Knife Law or is it still about the same as in this thread? Thanks for the information everyone.
 
I've read this thread with great interest, and have a couple of additional questions about Tennessee law. Most of these questions have to do with carrying a knife.....what about collecting?

1)If you have a knife collection that includes autos.....can you keep them legally in your home? Can you legally buy autos only for your collection at home?

2) On the carry question.....very long blades including swords used for martial arts practice, does it matter how you transport them? Also if you are practicing martial arts in say a state park, would a decorative sword be considered a weapon?......(this may sound bizarre, but I take Tai Ji Quan, and we do many sword forms.....and often practice in public parks in the early morning. These things are not even sharpened, but they are swords...)

3.) For the record, just so I'm clear, if I have a folding lock back that has a blade that exceeds 4" on my person, but I use it for work, and do NOT go with the intent to go armed, strictly legally am I OK? (I understand a LEO may see it differently, just trying to understand how the court sees it.)

4.) How are Speed assisted knives looked at legally under the auto law, like the kershaw series......?

Thanks respectfully for your help.

IMHO, it seems bizarre that I can get a CC permit easily and carry a Kimber Ultra Carry no problem, but an Auto knife in my home would be a public threat.
 
Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
I've read this thread with great interest, and have a couple of additional questions about Tennessee law. Most of these questions have to do with carrying a knife.....what about collecting?

1)If you have a knife collection that includes autos.....can you keep them legally in your home? Can you legally buy autos only for your collection at home?

It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section which the person must prove by a preponderence of the evidence that:
(1) The persons conduct was relative to dealing with the weapon soley as a curio, ornament or keepsake, and if the weapon is a type described in subdivisions (a)(1)-(5), that it was in a nonfunctioning condition and could not readily be made operable;
By the letter of the law you can have them if they aren't functional.


2) On the carry question.....very long blades including swords used for martial arts practice, does it matter how you transport them? Also if you are practicing martial arts in say a state park, would a decorative sword be considered a weapon?......(this may sound bizarre, but I take Tai Ji Quan, and we do many sword forms.....and often practice in public parks in the early morning. These things are not even sharpened, but they are swords...)

Just don't transport them were you have quick and easy access. The trunk would be a good place. Hard to say you are going "armed" if you don't have them readily accessible.

3.) For the record, just so I'm clear, if I have a folding lock back that has a blade that exceeds 4" on my person, but I use it for work, and do NOT go with the intent to go armed, strictly legally am I OK? (I understand a LEO may see it differently, just trying to understand how the court sees it.)

Exactly. It is only illegal "with the intent to go armed". This doesn't mean that an officer won't charge you, just that you will have a defense.

4.) How are Speed assisted knives looked at legally under the auto law, like the kershaw series......?

I have never seen anyone charged with it. I don't think it meets the definition of a switchblade. Many stores here in Knoxville sell them.

Thanks respectfully for your help.

IMHO, it seems bizarre that I can get a CC permit easily and carry a Kimber Ultra Carry no problem, but an Auto knife in my home would be a public threat.

I agree. I think it was just an oversight when they drafted the legislation.


I tried to answer your questions to the best of my ability. They are in bold above. I am a full time LEO in Knoxville. I don't see there being a problem with an auto in the home unless they had another reason to charge you and wanted to stack the charges. You wouldn't believe the officers that don't know law very well. Most of us in Knoxville seem to do pretty good. Some of the surrounding counties that pay deputies like $8.00 an hour is different. You do get what you pay for.
 
zippy said:
Does anyone in Tennessee feel like writing their state representative about this?

It just seems sort of silly that I can pack a .44 magnum with a six inch barrel.
But a 4.5 inch knife is no-no.

Zippy (in Tennessee)


yea i have been singing that line for years!!! its rediculous. i have a CCW permit and i carry a glock 9mm everywhere i go, within the parameters of the law, but yet i cant carry my benchmade fixed blade because it is 4.11 inches!!!:jerkit: i mean thats just silly, ya know
 
Morpeus said:
Dont complain,I used to and now im moving to the communist state of Georgia where no knife is legal. I would love to have my 4" blade back! You dont know what you got till its gone :(



wtf!!!! georgia is a communist state!?!?!?! have you gone crazy! GA is very firearm friendly. dont know about knife laws though. i am guessing this is what you are basing your statement on...
 
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