Tent recommendation

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I don't know if it should be here or in gadget and gear since it's a wilderness gear question...

Well, I'm shopping for my first tent. Looking for a 3-4 people tent, aluminum/DAC poles, bathub floor and sealed seems (the basics).

I also asked on that other forum :rolleyes:, the more answers the better.

I heard good things about Eureka's Timberline Outfitter, but I can't have it locally. I would like to buy soon since there are 25-20% sales almost everywhere.

Interresting models I saw:
- MEC Wanderer 4
- North Face Heron 33
- MSR Mutha Hubba
- Marmot Halo 4

Any imputs?

Thanks
 
Rei quarterdome is a good tent. Lightweight, packs small, and roomy when set up. My son bought the two person model and loves it.
 
Cybrok,

If you are looking at the Mutha Hubba - get the T3 Quarterdome. Same thing basically at a REDUCED price.

Order it if you need to - you can always return it.

I have the T3 and T2 NICE!

TF
 
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I just went through this, I decided on the Black Diamond Vista. A bit pricy but I found it for a little over $100 off MSRP. I spent 3 days soaking wet hunting up in north Florida last November and price didn’t seem all that important at the time.

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A little tight for three and too small for four but check out the Golite "Shangri-La 3" that used to be named the "Hex 3".

It's a single wall tent that can be used with a "nest" of mesh netting and bathtub floor or tarp only. I use my hiking poles as a center pole for backpacking.

http://www.trailspace.com/gear/golite/hex-3-shelter/
 
im going to have to also say the hex 3 or the shangrila 3 with the inner nest component you can have the versatility of a true 4 season shelter.
 
Hi Cybrok,

I am familiar with a couple models you mentioned, but not all. After spending years playing with stuff, and some excellent advice from backcountry guides, I have the following features I look for when looking for any tent.

Fly
It should cover as much of the tent as possible. If water can run off the fly and hit a tent seam, pass on the tent (unless you want to sew fabric yourself). Taped seams will eventually fail (or not be perfectly sealed from the get go; that is why most companies supply seam sealer). The best solution is to not have water hit the seams in the first place.

The "average" dome tent that has a little tiny vestibule over a door 3 feet off the ground is typical of weekend campers. They leave the entire door/zipper and lots of seams exposed. They are for campers who end up packing up when the weather gets bad.

Storm Loops mid fly


First, where the fly has storm loops, it should also attach to the tent frame. When the winds get above 40 mph your storm tie downs need to be attached to structure. If it is only attached to fabric, it will eventually lead to failure. Not only of the fabric, but of the structure to withstand high winds.

Unfortunately, even at its high cost, the MSR Mutha Hubba does not have this feature. Such a tragedy for an expensive tent. Big Agnes is famous for not putting these on either.

You can always add them yourself, but I have issue with buying a $400 plus tent, and then having to fix it before I use it.

Storm loops at the bottom of the fly

There should be enough of them, and in the proper location that when the high winds hit them, the side of the fly does not collapse in. I will try to explain what I mean by "proper location."

If you have two poles, and a big seam at the bottom, an example of poor placement is to have 2 storm loops 1/3 and 2/3 of the way in.

First, the most important thing is to bisect that area of the fabric, and have one in the center. If the fabric span is short, that will be enough. If the fabric span is longer, and you need more, they should continue to divide the remaining area in half. It is the strongest way to support the fabric.

Those storm loops are the easiest to add yourself after the fact, but many tents come setup nicely. It is a good feature to look for.

Hubs

I don't understand the latest rage in using hubs, like on the MSR tent. If the hub were to fail, or the pole to break right at the hub, you are DONE! Your tent will no longer stand up, and I can not see an easy way to field repair it. For that reason alone, I do not like that hub style.

If you look at the REI Quarterdome series, it has plastic hubs, but they are meant to hold the poles together at a certain location, and for convenience of packing. If one of those hubs break, 1 foot of string can lash the poles together so that they cross in the proper location. A pole break anywhere can be fixed with the supplied oversized tube. Bottom line, the hub is not critical to the tents survival.

For me, I look for a tent that if it does have hubs, they are not critical for the structure to survive.

Like Tal mentioned, the REI quaterdome's are a good example that has all these features. Ironically, a lot of more expensive tents do not. I don't mean to recommend a specific tent. Just features to look for. As that Black diamond tent pictured above looks awesome. But, I have not seen or used it first hand. I have heard excellent things about Black diamond tents. But, if you know what to look for, you should be good with any.

Just remember, any tent works well when it is nice and sunny. Look for the features that are going to get you through when it is down right rotten out.

Just my thoughts,
B
 
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Hi Cibrok - you have a lot of MEC tents on your list. I have the Nunatuk and Tarn 3. Both are excellent, the tarn 3 being a better buy of the two and easily accomodates four seasons. I've been dealing with MEC products for the past 10 years and think they are a great place to purchase a tent. I've had to replace the fly on my Nunatuk - due to using it on an Island with a thousand colonial birds and having it become so covered in guano - it just ate through the material on the way home. I was happy to find out that MEC carries all the different parts in stock. Lose a pole - contact them and they'll fix you up.

I guess one question is do you really need a 4 person tent for multiple people or are just looking for space. 4-persons are not the best for doing anykind of back packing. If it really is just two of you, why not get a 2 person tent and bring along a tarp to set up for extra living space or to cover extra gear up? I kind of regret having bought my 4 person expedition tent now - 5 kg is just way to big for the majority of my needs.
 
I really try to stay in the brands I named, because the other you suggest I would have to order in the states, wich would cost an arm to ship, especially with UPS :S


And as I said, 30% is something I must consider.
 
Are you going to carry it on your back? For UL packing I use a Tarptent (linked in a previous post, I believe).

For raft/canoe/horse/4WD camping I have a four-person, four-season Cabela's XPG. It is too heavy to carry on your back but is incredibly strong and weather resistant. I've used it in howling wind/rain just off the Bering Sea and on cold, high mountain ridges in Montana in November. When they have a sale, the price is good.

DancesWithKnives
 
Another fine company: Big Agnes...we just picked up a 'Big House 4' for a car camping trip a few weeks ago and it worked very well, even in driving rain that passed through. Highly recommended.
 
I love my REI tent. A whole lot of tent for the money IMHO.
 
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