Thanks for the Toenail Parke1 (Dan)

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I've never had a Sunfish/Elephant's Toenail, to be honest I've always felt they were a little ridiculous, kinda like an overcompensation type of knife, an exaggerated pattern that was really more of a curiosity than a useful pattern. Now mind you my opinion was purely based on the fact that I'd never held one or used one before, only in pictures and at shows but I never picked one up to check it out so my opinions were based on aesthetics alone.

Now every year around the time for the new forum knife to be discussed the cry for Sunfish/Toenail start and I used to laugh because it was the pattern I never would suspect would get a shot. Well that all changed when a little over a week ago we were discussing what pattern to pick for next year's knife and the Sunfish fans started lobbying immediately, almost as fast as the peanut lobby. :)

Well during the discussion I mentioned that I've never even held a Sunfish so I really couldn't comment on it as far as what kinda knife it was. Almost immediately I got a pm from a member here who said he had a Rough Rider Sunfish and he'd gladly send one to me.( Thanks Dan (Parke1) the generosity of our community still amazes me although it shouldn't anymore :) ). Here's a pic of a similar knife, the one Dan sent is nearly identical.

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I received it in a few days and it was one of those knives that felt eerily familiar and I couldn't figure out why, then it dawned on me, it's very similar to a Schrade 51OT. Now I know the 51OT is a single blade lockback but the overall shape is very familiar.

The Sunfish is probably the first over built knife pattern, beefed up in every aspect, bigger bolsters, bigger frame, thicker blades. It was the Strider and ZT of its day and it was here first.

I've been carrying it in my back pocket since I received it, it has heft, it has mass and where you would think it was an unwieldy knife it's really quite comfortable and cuts really well.

Now this is only my second Rough Rider the first being a locking Sodbuster Jr and granted its no Tony Bose but it's an impressive knife, I've seen Case knives at 10X the price and the quality was not even close to the same RR knife. Maybe not the best steel or the best handle materials but they're pretty darn good and I would definitely not hesitate to get a Rough Rider knife.

Rough Rider is an example of what can be accomplished in China with the right people running the factories. There may be hope for Schrade... :)

I just wanna say thanks again Dan I really appreciate your generosity and it's just another example that speaks volumes about the community we've built here at BFC.
 
Congratulations, Ted, on your new knife! Thanks for sharing the revelations you experienced once you had a toenail in hand. (FWIW, I have a baker's dozen of Rough Riders and, although I'm by no means a pocket knife expert, all of my Rough Riders are far more than satisfactory to me.)

Kudos to Dan for his generosity:thumbup::thumbup: It seems like every week or two I read a post that shows how amazingly generous Dan is. I'll always appreciate his taking the time to send me links to jackknife's sharpening videos. Great guy!

- GT
 
Our man Dan is just that...a stand up guy. He stepped in and helped me acquire a recent knife release, thanks for that Dan. Ted like you I had never handled the wildcat from GEC, similar to the Sunfish. It's honestly laughably huge yet I truly enjoy the knife:thumbup:

For me the only reasonable way to carry for me is back pocket. A huge sharp blade, odd but I like it:o

Keep us up to speed on your thoughts after some carry time Ted:thumbup: Again...your a good man Dan;)
 
I've never carried or had one either, they look pretty cool.

Were they originally designed for sailors to cut thick rope?

Todd had made a custom one and said they are not an easy knife to make.

Way to go guys, very nice of you Dan. - :thumbup:
 
They've been called a vest pocket axe and many other things. Some of the history I've seen on them indicates sailors and other large, heavy rope users would actually baton the blade through rope.

I lean towards the Elephant Toenail these days. Though the names get interchanged, to me an ET is the asymmetrical and the Sunfish is the equal end. The Toenail is one pattern I had long wanted to try, but all the used Case and other maker used ones I would see were always $95 and well beyond. A bit more than I wanted to spend on a pattern when I wasn't sure I would like it. Enter the RR ET.

I found the ET pattern to be much easier to carry than one would think to look at it. While the wide, flat frame would ride decently for me in a front pocket, the knife really road well in a watch pocket. That tall blade also does an amazing job cutting. I don't know if it's the extra weight of the blade or what, but that big blade is a darn good cutter. My wife has a RR "awbaloney" scaled ET she loves and I picked up a yellow handled ET as well. I really, really, wish GEC would make an Elephant Toenail to go along with their Sunfish.

Good on ya Dan. Glad you got to try it out T.E.
 
Dan is a great guy, and you are worthy receipient of anyone's generosity Ted :) :thumbup:

Like others here, I've never owned one of these, kinda regarded them as a bit of a curiosity, but not really my thing. If I ever get round to trying one, I reckon RR is a good place to start :thumbup:

Sounds like you like it Ted, and you are not alone in being surprised by the pattern I think. Good luck with it :thumbup:

Jack
 
I haven't been really involved in the traditional forum for too long, but have already experienced the kindness and generosity of Dan. Dan is good people for sure.

Congrats on that Toenail! Looks fantastic!
 
Dan is good people. Rough Rider's skill and rising popularity with knife nuts should light a fire under the USA factories keesters.
 
I bought one of those, just to try out the pattern. It is easy to carry but I have such a bias towards clip blades that I just never seem to carry it.
 
Inspired by this post (and gorgeous photo), I ordered one of these myself.

A RR is a great way to try out a new pattern!
 
Aww shucks, fellers. :o Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you like it so well, Ted!
 
I have my all steel GET on my desk, as we speak. One of my favorite knives.
 
Since being introduced to the design, I've probably given a dozen toenails away to friends and family. And have a number of them scattered around home/work/vehicles because they are just downright good functional blades. Here's a pic of a new one I just pulled out of the box for my office desk. Next to a Barlow for size comparison. The one it replaced I just gave away last week to a retiring coworker.

So, if you happen to be within earshot of anyone right now as you read this, please say out loud..... "I love yellow toenails!" :)

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