Thanks LT

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Don Luis

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This stag handled beauty arrived in the mail today, along with a CD, it is the nicest Schrade I´ve ever had and certainly the most appreciated, Thanks LT, it will be properly kept and cared for.

Luis

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Entirely my pleasure they stopped making these in stag because of the size in stag these often cracked or split I hope yours made it OK, They are prettier than staglon but a lot more delicate. Glad you like it. May you use it in good health for as long as you so wish and thankyou for the time, thought and effort that went into the hatband. LT
 
Hey Don Luis,

Was the CD LT's Greatest Hits?
You know, like .......Viva, Wallkill......or Schrade Me Tender? :rolleyes:

If it was about the Knife Collection, it is very informative, and great to peruse a history of those knifemaking entities. I'm sure you'll enjoy it mucho. The collection is awesome, to say the least.

Beauty of a knife, by the way. Just like your hatband is a beauty. I'll bet both are good luck for the two of you. ;)

Bill
 
Oh Bill. Bill, Bill, Bill......

Great knife. I didn't think our LT would have any problem at all getting one to Mexico. Just something special about real, genuine stag.

You both did excellent on that deal.

Phil
 
LT, or anyone who might know........
About when did they stop making the above stag handled beauty? Did Schrade treat the stag at the factory, or outsource?
Sure wish they still made these, and with carbon steel blades........ :(

Thanks for whatever information anyone might have.

Bill

PS....
Sorry about the CD/Elvis kind of joke. I couldn't help myself, but I'll try harder.
 
Thank you for "playing" along Luis. :)

Do you have an idea when your stockman was made?

Regards,

Bill
 
I would like to know too, My guess (just a guess) is that it is from sometime in the 80´s, the Schrades I have seen from before that have the rivets pinned diferently, and apparently they haven´t used stag for a while, so the 80´s is my wild guess.
 
In the Collector Knives book by C.Houston Price he talks about the original factory-The Rogers Bone co burned down in 1956 and they didn't release any bone handles from 1960-1978.
In 1978 a special edition was made for Parker Frost aprox 6000pcs.
Colors were green,red and brown bone.
In 1983 Schrade re-introduced genuine bone on its Heritage series....the line was dropped in mid 1980's.

Hope this helps.

Kap
 
The knife in question was made recently within the last 5 years. While it is true that Schrade stopped selling bone handled knives in 1960. They also stopped selling pearl and celluloid as well. In reality they really were just using up the natural and old ( cell ) material they had left from when they were in Walden. As I have mentioned before the trend was to plastic ( synthetic) jigged bone or stag became jigged delrin, saw cut delrin, or staglon, wood became wonder wood, butter and molasses cell became plastic K horn. All of these are basically plastic. Then again in the 50 tys and 60 tys plastic was thought to be the wave of the future and was actually more sought after than the natural materials. When aluminum knives first came out in the 18 hundreds they were more expensive than silver. I know I have said this before.

Mr Parker and Mr Frost ( a short lived partnership ) contracted to have jigged bone handled knives made by Schrade and it was the beginning of Schrades getting back into the bone handled business. Mr Parker went on to have his Eagle brand knives produced in Japan. Schrade then produced some very nice issues in bone. I know, I put some pictures of the contemporary patterns which have been made within the last few years on one of the threads recently. I have to take a year or so sometime and organize the zillion of floppys I am surrounded by and find out what is on them. My wife used to label them my system is simpler I stack them in a pile much faster and efficient until you want to find some thing specific.

Yes indeed Schrade does produce these knives now and has in the recent past. Mostly they were for special editions like the 80th anniversary issue which was done in both the delrin and bone versions. The secret is to be a groveling and whining whimp ( when I go there on the pretense of research ) so that they will let me grab a couple that are unmarked like the Dons. Schrade now produces several lines in natural materials. Someday they may make pearl again but not in this country OSHA rules have made it financialy impossible for them to compete with third world countrys ( who still have employees with handkerchiefs tied around there faces to protect them from the carcinagens this procedure produces ) . As for the question of do they make the handles themselves or have them done. You answered your own question. Rogers used to make them for them so obviously they were on contract even then. However in the beginning ( Schrade Cut CO ) it was all done in house.

I have some dandy pics of the 80th ann model ( big grandad barlow ) in both bone and staglon to exemplify this point. It was then I found out my gold membership ran out so I just reuped but I guess it takes awhile before they do whatever they do. So no pics tonight. I like Houston Price the only trouble is that they include everything and as a result do not get very deep into anything. LT
 
Whoops one more bit of useless info. Regarding Stainless and Carbon. the Schrade Walden Tang was used from around ( not exactly ) 46 until 72. From 46 until 56 ( the move from Walden ). Two actual tang markings were used Schrade Walden NY and Schrade Walden NY USA. In the beginning of this transitional period the mark with out the USA was mostly used and then began to be phased out. Both marks were used to some extent in Walden however in Ellenville aside from a possible oddball or two it was all the USA version. Now during this period especially 56 through 60 when Schrade was using up its stock of natural material ,the pearl and real bone were the top enders in the line. Remembering that opinions change Stainless was the wave of the future so that is what they made the top of the line in. A pearl handled Schrade in carbon marked with the USA is ( barring the oddball ) rehandled. The Schrade Cuts 03-46 will mostly be in carbon. ( Because stainless was the expensive stuff it was only used on a few models). 46 to 56 will ( Schrade Walden NY ) find both with the percentage switching to stainless as time went on . Right now Schrade makes very few carbon blades ( again for reasons we have rehashed before ). So the modern bone handled models ( cigar box and classic lines ) are stainless. The one the Don has is a relatively new knife (although a very limited edition) so it is stainless.

the Schrade Walden USA tang was used until 1972 however many of the jigged delrin versions of that period were in carbon. That is why I again mention that the rare find of a Schrade Walden NY USA with carbon blades and jigged bone or pearl handles has been redone. Fortunately or not Stainless is the correct material for that marking during that period.

By now if anyone is awake you are probably saying who cares and I agree. I have no idea why I cannot remember what I had for breakfast but this junk stays in my mind I think someone hit it exactly the other day it is not Altzheimers it is Halfheimers. OH yes one more thing why is Bill ( the wolf man) picking on me and my CD I was never an Elvis fan more Roy Orbitson Or Johnny Cash. ( Sung to the tune of I walk the line ) Because there mine these Schrades are fine . LT
 
Thanks LT for the colorful and informative answer. It was some of your best work. :)

Oh... by the way,

I happened to put your CD in upside down by mistake, and was amazed to hear "The Man in Black" (Rest his soul) singing several songs that must have been done especially for your CD. Let's see, there was......
"How High's the Water Momma?"....Inspired by your basement I'd suppose? :(
"Big River"....Certainly about the view out your window. ;)
And of course....."Folsum Prison Blues" and "I Walk the Line"....Both classics inspired by your career in the Prison System, I have no doubt. :D

You are a legend in both print and recorded media.....And we are glad to have you and your stories here on this little forum.

3 Cheers for our official/unofficial moderator and historian. :D

Bill
(Not Lon Chaney, but still a wolfman of sorts)
 
LT, I find your posts interesting and educational. you could start saving them and put them together in a book.

When I put the CD in the drive I hear "Pedro Navajas", "La Carcel de Cananea" and "El Preso Numero Nueve".

And something by García Lorca (here with my own unofficial translation):

"Los cuchillos de oro se van solos al corazón, los de plata cortan el cuello como una brizna de hierba".

"Knives of gold go to the heart by themselves, those of silver cut the neck like a string of grass".

And:

"Los otros cuchillos no sirven. Los otros cuchillos son blandos y se asustan de la sangre. Los que nosotros vendemos son fríos. ¿Entiendes? Entran buscando el sitio de más calor y allí se paran"

"Other knives are no good. Other knives are soft and afraid of blood. Those that we sell are cold. Do you understand? They go in searching for the warmest place and there they stop"
 
Doggone Don Luis that is a heavy duty song thankyou for the analogy and the translation. I have been reinstated so here are some ( not to great )pictures to emphasize the point on the same knives being made in various materials. Most people do not even realize that these special versions are made. LT PS Note the factory filework ( if you can see it ) on the bone version.
 
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