I wanted to thank andrew for recomending the satin jack on the knifeforum. I bought the knife from payback (very nice person, great to deal with) knife much better than discribed, just like new. have one question, this s.j. had a useable edge but I have had a hell of a time trying to get it shaving sharp. I have a lansky sharpener. I know these knives will hold a edge, my basic 3 is razor sharp. thanks again andrew
thanks mark
thanks mark