the blade for me (tanto or spear point)

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i dont noe if i have posted this topic before but for an EDC which would be better? im tokin abt cutting nylon strings/rope cutting paper/cartons (aint gonna do any skinnin or anythin, no forest here for huntin, hehehee). coz i live in a reasonably safe urban country, singapore. so theres no need for defence (never can be to sure though). so im wondering, is a tanto or a spear point the one for me??
all opions are welcome. thanks in advance pple
 
Hello! Generally speaking, a spear point will be better gor the general utility chores you described. Curved tips are useful for other things than just skinning. Pick the Tanto if you think you'll be doing some stabbing into dense materials. Or, pick the Tanto if you like them. otherwise, take the spear point :)
 
well if it was me i would get the spearpoint, tantos arent too great for EDC - if ya do like the looks of the tanto, get a spyderco LUM tanto, w/haraguchi (appleseed?) grind blade - all of the LUM tantos have this grind - and the LUM tanto is the ONLY tanto i have(or have seen) that is worth a flip for EDC, most tantos are chisel edge grinds, and left handed to boot (ie emerson, BM, etc) and the LUM is a dual grind blade, and is fine for EDC if thats what ya are looking for imho - i have had 7 or 8 other tantos, all chisel edge, and none were really suitable for edc (ie emerson,BM,livesay,CRKT) well upon reflection, my CRKT M16-00 tanto would be ok for EDC albeit a little small and i dont know what grind the larger M16-14F is gonna be , but ya might check that out also, but i really like my LUM Ti Tanto, #445- hope this helps.....


sifu
 
jln26 -- I certainly am one who agrees that tantos are not very handy for EDC carry, if the knife is to be used for the purposes you state. I certainly would choose the spear point from those 2 options.

Can't help but wonder if you might not do well to consider either a wharncliffe or even a hawkbill shaped blade. For instance, the Spyderco Harpy or Merlin, have long been knives used by sailors, and others who must do a lot of line cutting. The inward curve of the blade, sort of keeps feeding the cord into the blade edge. They can be had in either serrated or plain edge configurations.

My tired, feeble mind is failing to come up with a production wharncliffe knife right now. There aren't a lot of them. There are many custom wharncliffes. Just remembered that the discontinued CRKT Mirage wharncliffe is in stock at Smoky Mountain Knife Works (SMKW). I'm fairly sure this is the medium, or smaller version of this knife. They have a 3" edge on the blade. They are on closeout for $10 apiece. They only have the combination edge with half serrations and half plain edge. They aren't the absolute best knife you can buy, but they are a solid, good knife, especially for that price. They have AUS6 blade steel. This steel takes a great edge, and is quite corrosion resistant. It does not maintain it's edge as well as many other steels. More resharpening would be needed for that steel than some other knives.

Just something for you to think about.
 
get yourself an emerson cqc7. solid, sturdy little tactical folders, plus you can choose tanto or spearpoint. (I prefer the tanto, just watch the serrations, they're sharp!)
 
In most cases I'd recomend a spearpoint blade rather than a tanto. The exception would be the Spyderco Lum tanto, which SifuIA already mentioned. I find the Lum tanto (mine has the titanium scales) to be a truly wonderful daily carry.
 
Originally posted by SIFU1A
... most tantos are chisel edge grinds, and left handed to boot (ie emerson, BM, etc)...
Click to expand...

What Benchmade are you referring to? I believe all their tantos are V-grind. My EDC is a BM722 tanto and it is definitely NOT a chisel ground, left hand blade.

You are correct about Emerson's chisel grind, however.
 
ok. your question tanto or spear.
sori i have many spelling mistake cos i am too lazy to retype it. ok
tanto and spear.... which one... hmmm
ok i am a very mechancial guy. so i wouuld recommand u which brand or model.

one of your friend posted tis...

'Hello! Generally speaking, a spear point will be better gor the general utility chores you described. Curved tips are useful for other things than just skinning. Pick the Tanto if you think you'll be doing some stabbing into dense materials. Or, pick the Tanto if you like them. otherwise, take the spear point ''

'he say tanto for some stabbing into dense materials.. but wat about spear point. spear point can stabbed into dense materail too

ók, i give u a very powerful yet easy mechanical formula. this formaula is used calucate how share your blade is or wethere if the knives can be stabbed into a surface ( provided the knives blade is harder than the surface)
the formula is Presure is equal to force over area. P=F/A where P is the Pressure, F is the force and A is the AREA
so i will explain one by one.
P (pressure). the hight the pressure meaning more force. in order words (to make it more easy for u to understand) if the value of the P is very high, it says that the knvife is very very sharp. if P is low, then the knife is not sharp.
F (force) : the force u applied. such as your swinging force. your chopping force. ( i will put tis value as a constant, meaning i will not change this value. so i put it 10 kg of force)
A (area) : the cross section of the cutting edge or the shape of the knive.

look and the formual again P=F/A. i will put the value of F as 10, so in order to increase the value of P, we have to divide the F by a smaller A. the small the A, the bigger the P.
so easy speaking. to have a big big P ( very sharp), u must have very small A. tat is y, if u sharpen your edge to a smaller angle, u get a better edge, but of cos if your edge is smaller, it will have less materail so easy to wear out. i hope u can understand so far. i am trying to simplify the mechancial term alrealy. ok so... i will chose tanto.
in spear, there willl only be one sharp tip whihc is the head. but tanto has two. one on the tip , the other is between the tip and the main cutting edge. ( its hard to explain in word) and tanto's area of contact point, i mean the tip uaually larger (but enough to stab) so have a stronger tip. the tanto shape is like this ( hey man, i using singlish to explain here cos too hard to explian in english). the shape of tanto. starting from the end of the blade ( which is at the handle part) the blade usually goes straight toward. then it reach to a tip and it moves up about 40 degree up to the end tip. so from the end tip and the first tip. there is a small stright edge. this edge can be use for chisel. so u can use it for chipping wood which is very difficut if u used a spear point.. there are also some bad point on tanto and many other good point on tanto too as well as spear..
i can explain more.. but not now.. i need to sleep now. its 6am!!!
c ya.. do take care..
 
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