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The Bomb Has Dropped
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Jeff:
Some folks just don't have an appreciation for priorities. Everyone knows that sharing knife making information is at the top of the list.
A real bummer, but I must say, I think "Big Brother" may be watching me too............. P*$$-on-um'........Let-um' watch. I know where my priorities lie.........With my gang here on the forums.
Robert
Some folks just don't have an appreciation for priorities. Everyone knows that sharing knife making information is at the top of the list.
A real bummer, but I must say, I think "Big Brother" may be watching me too............. P*$$-on-um'........Let-um' watch. I know where my priorities lie.........With my gang here on the forums.
Robert
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Yeah, what Robert said!!
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peter nap said:I'll bet it was the Hot Housewife site you were on!
Listen to how ridiculous this company can be. About three years ago, I did a web search on HardCore Grinders. The IT pewks got flagged somehow and they flipped out. I was called on the carpet for it, and we all had a laugh when I explained (and had to show them).
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All joking aside Jeff. I have to side a little with the boss. With some employees, and I doubt very much you are one (Important disclaimer), Web Watching can get to be a problem.
It's a little easier in this kind of business because I have to be on the computer most of the time anyway, I can move back and forth without eating up my day (Besides, I'm the boss).
I try to be tolerant as long as the work gets done but some employees take advantage of it. In the case of my company, I just yank HIS INTERNET if it gets out of hand.
In a larger company, run by pin heads that can't think beyond their nose, the answer is to pull everyone's net privilege. I don't happen to agree with this approach however, I do recognize that it is their company, their computers and their time.
The downside to this is that heavy handed management drives good employees off. You are a perfect example of that. They have to suffer the consequences of their management decisions.
It's a little easier in this kind of business because I have to be on the computer most of the time anyway, I can move back and forth without eating up my day (Besides, I'm the boss).
I try to be tolerant as long as the work gets done but some employees take advantage of it. In the case of my company, I just yank HIS INTERNET if it gets out of hand.
In a larger company, run by pin heads that can't think beyond their nose, the answer is to pull everyone's net privilege. I don't happen to agree with this approach however, I do recognize that it is their company, their computers and their time.
The downside to this is that heavy handed management drives good employees off. You are a perfect example of that. They have to suffer the consequences of their management decisions.
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I agree with Peter to a certain extent. I once worked for a fellow whose management style was: If one person messes up, its punishment for all. Poor management style to say the least.
I firmly believe that if you have a problem child, bring the offending individual in and "talk" the problem out if at all possible. Punishment of the "masses" hopefully went out with Adolph (but we all know that is not true).
On the other hand, if an employee spends too much time on the "NET", then either he/she is not getting the job done, or "JUST MAYBE" he/she doesn't have enough to do.
A truly creative and dedicated employee can, through efficient time management, give the boss 110 percent and still find time to chat with us on these forums.
Unfortunately, those "special employees" are far-and-few between. Only a select few can pull it off like "Jeff" and "Me"
I firmly believe that if you have a problem child, bring the offending individual in and "talk" the problem out if at all possible. Punishment of the "masses" hopefully went out with Adolph (but we all know that is not true).
On the other hand, if an employee spends too much time on the "NET", then either he/she is not getting the job done, or "JUST MAYBE" he/she doesn't have enough to do.
A truly creative and dedicated employee can, through efficient time management, give the boss 110 percent and still find time to chat with us on these forums.
Unfortunately, those "special employees" are far-and-few between. Only a select few can pull it off like "Jeff" and "Me"
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Roosko said:give the boss 110 percent and still find time to chat with us on these forums.
Unfortunately, those "special employees" are far-and-few between. Only a select few can pull it off like "Jeff" and "Me"
I never did figure how you get 110% out of One whole??
Jeff I am the boss here and I'm my own problem Damn net I can't get anything done :grumpy: I think I'm going to pull it on myself but I have no control, so I won't I'm so doomed
I got to stop paying myself for the time I'm not working for me??
rrrr That's it , now I know why I don't get paid
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Screw 'um. Go with your gut. I started having doubts about my job two weeks before I got "laid off" due to cut backs. Call it Men's intuition, but from your previous post, it doesn't sound like you are happy there anyway. If it were me, I wouldn't wait. Or better yet, try to get them to fire you so you can still collect unemployment.
One thing I have learned, ok, two things, in life. One is that everything you do is your own fault (one way or another) and there are more important things in life than trying to passify some bone head boss.
There is no better reality check than to see a 3 month old child hooked up to a ventilator. Gives you a different perspective on life. And people wonder why I don't get upset very easy, hhhmmm, go figure.
But anyway, they all sound like yes men, privilages can be abused, but usually it seems like the abouse is a figmant of somebody's imagination.
One thing I have learned, ok, two things, in life. One is that everything you do is your own fault (one way or another) and there are more important things in life than trying to passify some bone head boss.
There is no better reality check than to see a 3 month old child hooked up to a ventilator. Gives you a different perspective on life. And people wonder why I don't get upset very easy, hhhmmm, go figure.
But anyway, they all sound like yes men, privilages can be abused, but usually it seems like the abouse is a figmant of somebody's imagination.
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Don, are you really talking about Higgy????peter nap said:
Seriously I do agree with Don. When I was a PC Manager I had to write up a person for being on internet. In a two week period she averaged 1 1/2 hours a day.
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She was making more than that a hour. She was my supervisor of the scheduling department.Dan Gray said:
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peter nap said:
I'll be the first one to argree with this. You are 100% right on. I have spent hour upon hour of company time surfing the web, and posting here and TKN, and a long list of others. But you have to understand that I'm paid to keep the machines running. I do it very well. Surely... there's always something that could be done, but OSHA says I can't work on the machines while they are running, and since I do such a good job keeping them running, management makes sure there is always jobs for the pressmen to do.
I refuse to stand around with my thumb up my arse, but I'll be buggered if you'll see me push a broom just to stay busy. I always say it is much better to BE busy, than to try and LOOK busy, but I didn't study this stuff my entire life to push a broom or clean up someone else's mess. No way.
I'm no prima donna either. I'm pretty humble, in fact. But you go and start taking things away from the employees of any company a little at a time and hoping they'll forgive or won't notice, then you have a problem. Soon enough they wake up and say WTF are they doing to us?
Seriously, its not all this. It's only a small thing in a whole collection of small things.
My boss is psycho. This is probably the major problem. Tight-assed. Pschyo. Bipolar. VERY unpredictable. Here's a story for ya,
DISCLAIMER: Kit, this has to do with a knifemaker going fulltimer, so not really an OT topic. Thanks.
So anyway...
This boss of mine is named Mike. Like I said, he's pretty explosive and the scary part is that he answers to no one in this building, and his word is god. One of the pressmen is a real slob. He eats fruit all the time. Several pieces a day. He puts the peels in garbage can by his press. Mike walked through this guy's work area last summer one day, and inhaled a fruit fly and started coughing. He went ballistic. He took every... EVERY single trash can in the building and threw them all in the compactor. Then he went to teh hardware store and bought these cheesy little plastic bins like the kind you would store your summer clothes in the winter. He gave everyone one and told them they had to empty their trash each shift.
I just shook my head in bewilderment. I eventually found humor in it. I was telling people that I took a walk in the woods, and a pine cone fell on my head so I cut down every tree in my home town. Yes... it is that bad around here.
Ahhhhhh! Feels good to vent. Its been a trying day. I really appreciate you folks being here to hear me out and I thnk thee for your kind words of encouragement.
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Your right Jeff and as I said....Heavy handed management is bad.
I have found two things over the years that can't be changed if you want to run an efficient operation.
1. You can't be friends with your employees.
2. You can't be enemies with your employees.
It has to be a team!
Funny story about your boss. Now let me tell you one about employees. I had one who was a good employee (to a point) He was retired AF and had been used to having someone tell him what to do.
I had to do this or he was lost. If he had his marching orders, he'd do it to perfection.
He could not work well under stress though. I had to tell everyone not to push him or try to help him. If they did, he would build stress until it blew up. When it blew, he's always throw a keyboard.
I had a cardboard box full of keys just in case we needed spares.
After he threw a keyboard, he was fine....until the next time.
I have found two things over the years that can't be changed if you want to run an efficient operation.
1. You can't be friends with your employees.
2. You can't be enemies with your employees.
It has to be a team!
Funny story about your boss. Now let me tell you one about employees. I had one who was a good employee (to a point) He was retired AF and had been used to having someone tell him what to do.
I had to do this or he was lost. If he had his marching orders, he'd do it to perfection.
He could not work well under stress though. I had to tell everyone not to push him or try to help him. If they did, he would build stress until it blew up. When it blew, he's always throw a keyboard.
I had a cardboard box full of keys just in case we needed spares.
After he threw a keyboard, he was fine....until the next time.
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Come on July!
These stories about companies whittling away at employee's "benefits" hit home. My company is a little different. It's generally a very benign environment. More a "family" atmosphere than any other corporation I know of. But that's slowly eroding and all the old timers feel it - and resent it. That's too bad because this company came to the top of its industry because its employees were so loyal to its ideals and products. We're losing that and I wonder what effect it might have down the road. I won't be around to see it probably, 10 years to retirement...
As to internet use, they have a unique policy: Do what ever you want but if you do personal surfing on company time you can be fired. And they've fired people for it, though usually for streaming music which really ties up bandwidth, or for visiting "lonely mom" sites. They've established times of the day when it's possibly okay to do your personal surfing (because many people just don't have PCs at home). Every month we get a report showing the time and cost of each person's internet time. Actually I think this is a pretty amicable solution; it is the company's time and resources being used, after all. I try to stick to it, which is why you seldom see me posting here during the day.
Anyway, unless you're Dan and just can't keep off the computer , being your own boss has got to be better than working for someone else. It's pretty hard some days but I'm sticking it out for the pension and insurance since I don't have any other way to cover the basic expenses.
Jeff, good luck! It's going to be great to see what you do when it's all you have to think about. It's a new era...
These stories about companies whittling away at employee's "benefits" hit home. My company is a little different. It's generally a very benign environment. More a "family" atmosphere than any other corporation I know of. But that's slowly eroding and all the old timers feel it - and resent it. That's too bad because this company came to the top of its industry because its employees were so loyal to its ideals and products. We're losing that and I wonder what effect it might have down the road. I won't be around to see it probably, 10 years to retirement...
As to internet use, they have a unique policy: Do what ever you want but if you do personal surfing on company time you can be fired. And they've fired people for it, though usually for streaming music which really ties up bandwidth, or for visiting "lonely mom" sites. They've established times of the day when it's possibly okay to do your personal surfing (because many people just don't have PCs at home). Every month we get a report showing the time and cost of each person's internet time. Actually I think this is a pretty amicable solution; it is the company's time and resources being used, after all. I try to stick to it, which is why you seldom see me posting here during the day.
Anyway, unless you're Dan and just can't keep off the computer
, being your own boss has got to be better than working for someone else. It's pretty hard some days but I'm sticking it out for the pension and insurance since I don't have any other way to cover the basic expenses.Jeff, good luck! It's going to be great to see what you do when it's all you have to think about. It's a new era...
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Jeff, I'm sorry for your situation, but knowing you, you'll find something better, and that suits you. I'm very lucky, in that I'm my own boss, and have no employees, yet can still make ends meet. I'm even luckier in that my wife works full time, and carries our insurance and other benefits. I love to piddle on the computer, and have one here at the house, and at my shop. Lots of times, I'll be working on something, and just have a desire to go sit for 10 minutes and play on the internet. I watch myself pretty closely, but I don't overdo it either. Some of my business is generated via the net, so this sort of gives me a license to play on it.
I truly hope things start going your way. With the personality you have, that I've seen on the forum, you'll end up getting into something that you're very happy with.
I truly hope things start going your way. With the personality you have, that I've seen on the forum, you'll end up getting into something that you're very happy with.
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Higgy, just tell your boss next time he rants at you that he really doesn't like you because you are not humble. Tell him it's hard to be humble when you are so good. Say it with a straight face, too. I say it's hard to be humble because I'm so good looking. That usually gets a laugh, too. Good luck, Higgy. You are a better man than your boss is, and he can't even make knives!