The Craftsman Bowie - a step closer

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Back in April I posted some research I had done on the 166 Schrade bowie pattern, one of the largest civillian production knives made by Schrade (then Schrade Walden).

An honest foot of Bowie knife in a 13" antique finished “Gaucho” style sheath. I recently bought a Sears Craftsman version of the Schrade Walden Buffalo Bill Commemorative Bowie knife from a fellow forum member, and in honor of him... and this knife, I’ve written up some research on the SW 166 Bowie pattern.



While it was most usual for Schrade Walden... and later Schrade Cutlery... to first make and sell a production knife under their own name and then later sell it as an SFO, the 166 pattern was an exception.

In 1967, Schrade Walden produced a unique 12" Bowie style knife. That year 1,572 of them were shipped to Sears Roebuck & Co. as their #21627. Over the next six years nearly 10,000 more were sold to Sears for a total of 11,0334 knives. 166SR was Schrade Walden's name for the version of the 166 that they made for Sears Roebuck, specifically for the American Eagle Series. The first Sears number was #21627, and the number for the last lots in 1972 and 1973 changed to #73603. That the details of the knives with these two numbers are the same is assured by the SW pattern number of both (P#3027) and the SW name for both (166SR).

These knives had a sawcut Delrin Old Timer style handle with brass and brown Delrin spacers separating it from the nickle silver birdshead pommel, and the symmetrical flat oval guard was composed of three layers, a brown Delrin spacer separating two outer brass plates. This same design theme was used on the 141SR American Eagle sold as the 41OT in 1971-1973 but with a standard style one piece guard. These Craftsman hidden tang blades were stainless steel and featured a 3/16" x 2 1/8" fuller groove on each side of the 7" clip blade. The tangstamp on blade right was “Craftsman” over “U.S.A.” read from the blade tip. The166 was a Sears Craftsman before it was a Schrade Walden BB166 Buffalo Bill.

...An additional 750 (BB166 Buffalo Bill) were sold as Sears #21628 in 1969 and 1970. While it is not at this point a certainty, this pattern likely closely followed the later BB166 design with single brass guards having forward curved upper and lower quilons, the rounded African Rosewood handle and brass rivets.

Michael

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=467578&highlight=BB166

Now here is a NIB example of the American Eagle Bowie complete with the brochure which should have the correct Sears number for the knife.



I'll add that number when it arrives. This puts me one step closer to positively identifying the differences in the three Sears 166 SFO's #21627, #73603 and #21628. If I had to guess, I would say this one is most likely the 1972-73 #73603. Is that when they began their American Eagle Collection Series? 1972-76? I have quite a few examples of the Collection '77 knives. Was it a successor of the A.E.C. series?

An interesting aside (there always is one if you look!), the tang stamp on the NIB example is on blade left and read from the handle. The first example I have has the stamp on blade right and read from the tip. Trivia, I know, but interesting to me.

Michael
 
Good find and a heck of a deal.I posted before there are differences in the blades,the fullers groove and the swedge.Also a different dye pattern on the sheath.Arnold
 
It will be interesting to see what differences there are between these two. The location and orientation of the stamps was apparent in the photographs. But photos distort, so it is impossible to tell yet if they are blanking die mates, or of different blanking and grinding.

Michael
 
Why, thank you Arnold! I am always willing to accept free knives! Ummm...oh. You meant a loan. Nah. Let me see what I can find with these two. I'll post the results and you can post the same measurements etc. of yours.

In 1967, Schrade Walden produced a unique 12" Bowie style knife. That year 1,572 of them were shipped to Sears Roebuck & Co. as their #21627. Over the next six years nearly 10,000 more were sold to Sears for a total of 11,0334 knives. 166SR was Schrade Walden's name for the version of the 166 that they made for Sears Roebuck, specifically for the American Eagle Series. The first Sears number was #21627...

I'll add that number when it arrives. This puts me one step closer to positively identifying the differences in the three Sears 166 SFO's #21627, #73603 and #21628. If I had to guess, I would say this one is most likely the 1972-73 #73603. Is that when they began their American Eagle Collection Series? 1972-76?



I'm glad I refrained from guessing. It is a #21627 made 1967-73. The brochure shows the same knives as my brochure that came with the 41OT SFO, #21621 "Craftsman American Eagle Collection" Sportsman.
Those four are the 6 7/8" Bowie, 5 1/4" Deerslayer, 4 3/8" Sportsman and 4" Hunter.

Michael
 
The two knives do have some minor differences. The latest knife, No.2, has a 1/8" shorter blade. The grind lines are not as smooth and even as on knife No.1. Handles, guards, and pommels are identical. And as was first noted, the tang stamp on knife No.1 is on blade right and read from the tip, while the tang stamp on blade No.2 is on blade left and read from the handle. The stampings are otherwise identical and may have come from the same hob. The swedge of knife No.2 is not as deep as No.1, though both are the same length. All in all, the differences are fairly minor, and it may just be that the Sears brochure hype about these being hand made is true. That would account for the differences in grinds, and the variation in blade length. No.1 is 7 1/8" and No.2 is 6 15/16" from guard to tip.



Michael
 
Here is a picture of some of mine.You may be able to see a few of the differences in the side by side.On the two on the right the differences are,as Michael said the tang stamps.I also see a difference in the Fullers groove,in the dye pattern on the handles, and in the dye pattern on the sheaths.The swedges are slightly different but its hard to see.Sorry about the picture,when I have to reduce it to post on here it distorts the picture.Arnold
 

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