The Deadly Leatherman Tool!

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phantom4

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Boys and girls we are in serious trouble! I heard some Congressman tonight who was absolutely outraged! Somebody tried to take a DEADLY Leatherman Tool on a plane! Now I agree that at this point whoever did it was was not too bright, but you should have heard this guy. He spoke about how deadly it was--- why if you can believe it the blades actaully FOLDED! Not only did this weapon have TOOLS on it, the blades FOLDED UP so you couldn't tell. This clown, and I did not get his name, will be voting on policy and appropriations for our war on terror. God help us.

phantom4
 
Phantom 4...I tell ya...these sheeple make me sick. What really embarrasses me is that people elect them!:barf: ;)
 
they had a spot on the local news about weapons seized at the austin airport since the law about knives changed, and they had a whole table of different brands of tools, and a couple of small spydies - they said on the news that no charges were filed, and the individuals can get the tools back by sending a self addresed stamped envelope, or something like that - they really seemed pretty cool about it all considered.....and they said no one had attempted to bring on boxcutters, or blades longer than 4" ( wonder what they would think of one of those larry szabo box cutters....) when would ya have ever thought box cutters would be a deadly weapon??


sifu
 
Its those ever deadly assault tweezers that they have been seizing here at LAX that makes me laugh. Thank goodness they are finally getting those off the street. Imagine, what in the world would anyone need those deadly tools for. They are compact, easy to hide, they even are designed to make two wounds therefore doubling how deadly they are.

I hear that they even might get those nasty combat car keys out of the hands of dangerous civilians, and ban killer fake nails.
 
>"I heard some Congressman tonight who was absolutely outraged! Somebody tried to take a DEADLY Leatherman Tool on a plane! <snip> This clown, and I did not get his name, will be voting on policy and appropriations for our war on terror."

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Believe me, I in NO WAY support weapons banning and hysterical thinking ... but at the same time, do you really think no damagage could be done with the blade on a Leatherman? I have a Wave and would LOVE to have 10 minutes in a room alone with that and Bin Laden. Plus, the FAA and airlines have been pretty explicit in saying that no knives will be tolerated on airlines now. Just on general principle, I'd not want to fly with anyone dumb enough to think they could carry on any sort of knife or multi-tool right now. Hell, I don't even want to be around anyone that dumb.

Incidentally, it seems self-servingly incendiary to just write "I heard <i>some</i> Congressman tonight who was absolutely outraged! Somebody tried to take a DEADLY Leatherman Tool on a plane!" Who was this alleged Congressman, phantom4? Where was he speaking? In what sort of forum or arena? Come on, guys, let's try to get a little more specific than, "I heard a guy say he was a fixin to get the guhment to outlaw our knives" or "I have inside sources and they say ..." I understand that that sort of thought process is the norm on most internet forums. But in times like this we should rise about the temptation to wantonly run around throwing gas on every fire and conspiracy theory we see. Let's at least deal in SOME facts.
God help us, indeed.
 
Within a few days of last week's attack, Ollie North was seen on TV displaying a Leatherman PST, indicating that he always, up to now, flew with it. He regretted that he would no longer be allowed to do so.
 
You guys are way behind. Vampire Gerbil has been one of the foremost proponents of the "deadly and scary Leatherman Micra" for a long time. See his website if you don't believe me. :D
 
mnblade, I understand your concerns and under the circumstances I can see why knives have been banned on flights. What concerned me was the Congressman's attitude toward what is after all a TOOL. You would have thought he was talking about an Uzi or an MP 5. He seemed to think it was especially sinister that the blades FOLDED, as if it was some James Bond gizmo out of Q's lab. I am also sorry I didn't get his name but I was listening to the radio while working and heard them introduce Congressman so and so but only really statred to pay close attention when I heard the word Leatherman. The fact is there are any number of much more effective potential weapons that are presumably still allowed on planes. A cane or crutches perhaps with a fake cast that add to their plausibilty, spike heels, steeltoed boots, a roll of quarters in a heavy sock. What about martial artists, should they be banned from flying because they can kill someone with their bare hands? Do you think that would have stopped these guys? After all they took flight lessons for their flight to oblivion. I'm sure if they would have had to fly naked they would have spent a little bit of time training in the quickest way to break someone's neck. The point is, while it may be reasonable at this time to ban something from carry on luggage it is NOT reasonable to demonize a useful tool just because it has the potential to be a weapon. I work in a secure Federal building. We have had metal dectectors for years. We all had background checks before we were hired and yet I am told I can't bring a small SAK in which I have used for years to open boxes of printer and Xerox paper, remove staples and at other times to do minor repairs on office equipment. On the other hand, the telephone people are allowed in with a knife AND a pair of scissors. The copier repair people are even worse, they are allowed to bring in a whole box of potentially deadly tools. The difference is the phone and copier guys don't under go background checks. Something is wrong here. About six months ago before they got so strict, I used my Delica which I used to be able to bring, to cut the hem string on a teenage girl's pants when it got stuck in the subway escalator and started pulling her in. Tools are tools first, they are designed to do a specific job. The fact that they are also potential weapons is secondary IMO. Potential weapons are everywhere and a determined assailant will find one. I just don't want people to have the attitude that because I carry a Leatherman tool that I am a criminal, a thug and a potential killer.

phantom4
 
>"I just don't want people to have the attitude that because I carry a Leatherman tool that I am a criminal, a thug and a potential killer."

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Agreed, one thousand fold!
 
This is a typical knee jerk reaction. From where knife enthusiasts sit, nothing has really changed. It is still up to us to educate people. That includes our representatives.

You will hear a lot of our elected officials screaming the same thing. One big reason, to get re-elected. They are feeding off of the fears of the public at this time and trying to show that they are doing a great job protecting us. They don't want the truth to get in the way. That is sleazy.
 
Dirk hit the nail on the head when he said "to get re-elected". Although I personally think that these new restrictions on knives, and especially other items such as nail clippers and leathermans (leathermen?) is moronic, remember that these laws were made by occicials that were elected by the american people. If what are apparently the best leaders we can produce and elect choose to react like this then perhaps that is the american people getting what they deserve. Whether you agree with these new policies or not(and I certainly don't) in this country things work by majority rules, which means that the minority, which is apparently us, goes along for the ride. Remember this next time a polotician does something you don't like: just think how dumb the average person is, and then consider that half the people are even dumber than that. And they vote.
 
Individual responsibility for individual action rests with the individual.

Inanimate objects possess niether volition nor character. Their size, shape, weight, color, marketing strategy, and political correctness (or lack thereof) do not contribute to immoral, indecent, or illegal acts.

A knife, tool, keychain, paperweight, or lump of slag is nothing but metal. For best or worst results, first add human being.

Anyone who does not understand this is either ignorant or stupid.

Anyone who does understand this but willfully ignores it is a tyrant, would-be or otherwise.
 
Of course, the real danger with a Leatherman tool is that someone might disassemble the plane from the inside out.
 
I just saw the movie Proof of Life and I think Russel Crowe used a super leatherman serrated blade to rip the throat of some guerrilla fighter. I thought it a little weird that a commando would use this as a primary knife to do sneak attacks from behind. Anyway, it probably doesn't help the leatherman's public image to be used in such a way.
 
It is getting worse folks! I spent 40 minutes on hold with a local radio station last night to contribute a little common sense to a discussion of security on trains. I never got on. I couldn't beleive what I was hearing! People were talking about metal detectors and baggage screening for trains. I just can't see how a terrorist armed with a box cutter, no matter how creative he was, could drive a train into the Pentagon or some other building. These people just don't think. If you want to blow up a train it seems to me the easy way to do it is to place a bomb on the tracks somewhere. As an added bonus, you wouldn't even have to kill yourself. One big difference between planes and trains is that trains don't have checked baggage. At least if you fly you can still take knives or tools in your checked baggage.

phantom4
 
Although I personally think that these new restrictions on knives, and especially other items such as nail clippers and leathermans (leathermen?) is moronic, remember that these laws were made by officials that were elected by the American people.
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Are you sure about that? I bet most of these regulations were made up on the spot by bureaucrats, hiding behind their office letterhead.
 
Don't you just wish that some good, law abiding, God fearing American citizen with no bad intentions would have brought a Leatherman onto one of those ill fated flights. Perhaps thousands could live as a result of such an outrageous deed.

The sheeple and their left wing sheeptenders need to WAKE UP!

"Those who would substitute security for liberty deserve neither."
 
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