The Father of Tactical Knives?

jbravo

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Everyone understands that there is no actual "father" of inanimate objects. But, the notion always persists that credit can be given to someone for the design ideas that create a genre.

The Tactical folding knife - its a complicated thing to define with precision. But most people would include, at a minimum, these characteristics:

1.) One hand opener;
2.) Blade locks open;
3.) Pocket clip;
4.) Solidly built, especially the pivot and lock; and,
5.) Blade design that can be used offensively.

[There are plenty of other things we frequently associate with this type of knife - bead blasted titanium, micarta/G-10, premium stainless steels to name a few. But trying to keep it basic]

Given the above description, I can only think of two men who have legitimate claim to the title of originators (ie, 'fathers') of this category of knives that now spans literally hundreds of makers' work: Bob Terzuola and Sal Glesser.

Are there any others who should share in the title?
 
Terzuola. First to use the disk and first custom maker to use the pocket clip. I believe he was also the second maker to use the Walker liner lock. Obviously Emerson is a big name too.
 
The way I heard it explained; Bob T was the father of tactical knives and Ernie emerson was the father of "modern" tactical knives.

I have no clue what that means or meant.........................
 
Now you can't post such a question without informing Les Robertson.....

Folders, all agreed. (BobT., Ernie E. and Al Mar )
Fixed blades; now that's a tricky question. maybe John Ek, B.Randall,...
red mag
 
I wonder what years we're talking about, my entry into the Tactical folder started about 1994. I know I had at least one of Bob's ATCFs and I know that 1994 was the year I bought a CQC6 from Ernie. It took a while for me to get a Carson. Did Bob make the knife prior to 1990?

Good thread and JBravo knows his history.
 
Paul Fox 'Desert Fox' Folders of yore....
 
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Buck could argue that the 110 was used as a tactical folder often enough to also be considered as such. Does the absence of a pocket clip and one-handed opening make it non-"tactical"? There were people that did modifications to the 110 to open and close faster (to act/react faster in an aggressive encounter).

The way I see it one thing lead to another, but in my mind it started with the 110. The 110, for the first time, made tactical use of a folder possible due to its fairly realiable lock.
 
I remember carrying a Buck 110 with an aftermarket "thumb opener" gizmo screwed onto it. But its my belief that Bob and Sal were the first to incorporate those designs into a ready to go folder. I believe Kit, Ernie, Pat Crawford, and all the others added to and improved upon some of these things - but they were using a template already pioneered.

Win Heger's opinion must be respected just because he has a picture of a Jimmy Fikes sculpture in his avatar!!
(plus he knows his shit better than most)
 
I wrote to the 'Godfather of Tactical Knowledge' (as I know): Les Robertson. He responded in two emails.

As usual, his answers aren't diluted, and they may surprise you:

Hi Jim,

The following get credit for certain things:

Flipper opener: Mel Pardue

Frame Lock: Chris Reeve

Liner Lock: Michael Walker

Ti Bolsters and Scales: Bob Terzuola and Kit Carson

Holes in Ti Handle: Pat Crawford.

Emerson/Elishewitz/Gilbreath/Lum. All incorporated things the others did. Second generation…not Fathers of custom knives in any way shape or form.

I saw Joe Paranee was giving Emerson credit. He showed up around 1993. Second generation tactical folder maker. Along with Elishewitz, Darrel Ralph, Phil Boguszewski, Ken Onion, Steve Ryan, Bob Lum, (who gets credit for introducing the Tanto style blade with his fixed blades) etc. Most if of the lottery tactical folder makers were not making knives back then. Although I am sure that fan boys will try and include them in the conversation.

Someone mentioned Spyderco. Early on they did provide Emerson all of his clips and a few others. I think even Kit Carson used their clips.

Not sure how many members were there in 1991 when tac folders first showed up. So everything they know about it is either hearsay or something they read. Those who made the “gray turds” were a very very small group. Terzuola, Reeve, Carson, Crawford and Pardue. You could probably argue to include Michael Walker.

Les

Coop
 
I had to go dig out my oldest copy of "Fighting Knives", it's Spring 1990. So I thumbed through it and found ads for Bob T., SOG, an article featuring Al Mar, Spyderco and SOG. The article is titled "Look Ma, one hand". Another article was about the California Knife Show in 1989 and spoke about the impact of Terzoula Knives.

I couldn't scan the whole article but here's the first page:
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