the Fire Plow

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had some fun today, went for a little hike to clear the head of the New Years eve wobbly pops (3 pitchers of beer, 4 double gin martinis).

Wandered thru the woods silently, as i wanted to really hear the wildlife (mostly birds and squirrels). At one point I scared the :foot::foot::foot::foot: out of a dog walker and her dog....I wore mostly drab browns and greens today , CADPAT aint nothing compared to plain ol brown drab waxed cotton jacket and OD drab pant) , she did not even see me or hear me. Even the dog jumped about 2 feet into the air when i cracked a stick with my hands to alert him of my presence. No biggy, we exchanged Happy New Years greetings and she asked if I was the "woods guy" that built the shelter. Apparently her dog really liked lying down inside the shelter.

Anyways, onto one of the skills I practiced today. I have made fire plows before from dried garden bamboo and man are they easy to get going into flame. But today i tried with wood i found in my region...cedar!

The bamboo fire plow at home was EASY, hardly any effort. But the wood one left me breathless and almost ready to puke. I did get a lot of very fine woods tinder from my efforts, but man it was hard work.


video, click to play


screw this method :thumbdn: (fire Plow) , fatwood and fatwood scrapings rule for effortless firestarting. :thumbup:
 
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nice day! im hoping to get some dirt time tomorrow!

you got any info on the bamboo fire plow? i got a ton of that stuff around here...

thanks!
 
Yeah, I've always found the fire plow to be too difficult of a method of primitive fire starting. There's a reason it originated in the islands where big boys like Somoans and Tongans live. And you have to remember to not drip sweat all over your work and put out the coal before it takes life. It takes a lot of strength and energy and would probably be my last choice for primitive firestarting.
 
Fire plow was the first primitive fire starting method I ever succeeded at. I was 10-12 at the time. Hickory plow and a poplar board. (I remember, because I used a drumstick and a 2x4:D) I don't use that method much and am by no means "good" at it. Your plow in the video is way to long and the channel is way to big. That is a tough way to make fire where you live, bro.

Rick
 
^ hiya Rick!

yea the wood was very soft, it gouged wide quite quickly. However, having said that, it gave me a pile of very fine nested up tinder very quickly.

will try again with a thinner harder plow stick soon. Might even grab a drum stick for the pack...lol :D:D

The ferro rod and fatwood scrapings rules here on the wet coast.
 
check this out:

fire_stick.jpg


from the 1954 National Film Board of Canada short film "Survival in the Bush", forward to about 6:00, he sure makes it look easy!




[also at the NFB's site, Bill Mason's classics "Song of the Paddle" and "Waterwalker".]




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That's because it never happened, Mckrob....

It's a set up. The whole documentary is entertaining with many real concepts... but totally faked... and badly, IMO. Might as well watch a Tarzan episode.


Rick
 
That's because it never happened, Mckrob....

It's a set up. The whole documentary is entertaining with many real concepts... but totally faked... and badly, IMO. Might as well watch a Tarzan episode.


Rick

While I think they have taken some "artistic license" with the editing, there is obviously a fourth man on the camera, and the time-line would have to be in the order of weeks to construct that canoe, I don't think that makes it an all-out fake per se.
 
That's because it never happened, Mckrob....

It's a set up. The whole documentary is entertaining with many real concepts... but totally faked... and badly, IMO. Might as well watch a Tarzan episode.


Rick

I have a hard enough time with hand drill, I fear the fire plough (I also hate gardening so double fear)....

Sorry Bushman for being off topic here....

Rick - are you saying the risked the public response and ethical aspect of killing mama bear and by default killing the little cub that got away, all for showing a fake deadfall? I always thought it funny they did that but Angus let the bunny rabbit go.

Reviewing the video again, it looks fishy. Yes, he gets smoke....then they flash to reporter who says 'where there is smoke, there is fire...so the saying goes', back to Angus who is now nursing a flame. One, I think the fire-plough like any other method will produce a coal that needs to be blown into flame. I don't think the shavings he made with his axe could simply be blown into flame from a coal. I'm going to side with Rick on his skepticism on this one.
 
This video has been posted before and has been ripped apart everytime. We can walk through almost every event in this thing and point out the mistakes/fakes. The fire plow is simply ridiculous... no charring in the groove, no black dust and the end of the carved up curls are lit on fire. You blow a tinder pile from the inside out... I can't even believe I am taking the time to disprove that scene.

I have a hard time trying to find something legit is this documentary.
 
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