The Klu Klux Klan and knives

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Pretty disgusting:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2204760618&category=43335

I never knew that good ol'boy Frank "Cuz" Buster had joined the likes of Stewart Taylor and Jim Parker in sinking so low to make as knife sale as to issue a knife celebrating the KKK.

I do a little ebay selling of knives... As one of my "Favoites", at Ebay, I get an email notification every time one of these knives 'commemorating' this disgusing organization of hooded cowards of the night gets listed. I immediately report the offensive sale to Ebay, and almost just as quick, it is removed.

I've done a pretty good job. In my year long efforts to keep ebay free of these obscenities, I've seen the prices rise, and lots of little tricks used by the sellers to justify their sale of these 'highly collectible' knives. I love how so often these are 'private' auctions, the name of the bidders hidden. Seems the buyers are as cowardly as the members of the KKK themselves. I've seen statements from sellers of how "important" these 'relics' are, how they are part of our history, and how the sale of these items do not reflect the seller's personal view points.

I like to think that there are no members of this forum who wanna buy such a thing, or sell it. I'd hope that knife collectors are a little more noble than that.

Just my rant, and I don't make many of them here. If there does happen to be a seller here who has had his auction ended due to my efforts, or a buyer who is angry about losing an auction for one of these because of me, send me a private message and we'll talk about it. I may be a very liberal Democrat, but this kinda thing puts me in a real "fight'n" mood.
 
My hat's off to you, textoothpk. Keep up the good work rooting the SOBs out. And if you have some spare change and time, you might look around on Ebay for a copy of Stetson Kennedy's great book, "The Klan Unmasked." Kennedy tells the story of his years as an undercover agent in the KKK. He writes about his clandestine information-gathering and not-always-easy efforts to report his findings to the media and any law enforcement agencies that would listen.
 
I agree with the "spirit" of what you have said. Don't have one in my collection, never will, but as far as the politics of racism, if you want to see a picture of true racism all you have to do is follow the Southern Democrats during the heyday of the KKK up to the mid to late 70's. :D.


(Many powerful Southern Democrats were KKK leaders, - start your research with the Gore family and Albert Gore Sr, then check out the early days of George Wallace and his party affiliation, Lester Mattox is another example.) There are hundreds more - mayors, senators (state and federal), govenors etc. Without many exceptions they were Democrats :D).

P.S. I am an independant and vote as such. In the South voting Democratic (state and locally) in hopes to squelch racism is a huge falicy. You have to look at the person, not the party and vote accordingly.
 
Good for you, Phil. This subject came up here before, and I stated that I had served, over my years in the military, with too many excellent soldiers who just happened to have black skin to put up with this nonsense.

Shame on anyone for making money by manufactoring those obscenities.

By the way, I left you a message in the Schrade forum.

Strawberry
 
Certainly didn't mean to disparage any Southerners here, Bastid, or anyone else that does follow my slightly left leaning ideals. Plenty of room in this country for Liberals, Conservatives, Democrats and Republicans. No room at all for anyone celebrating rascist murderers and making a buck while they do it.

There are a few folks out there that think we lefties are a little soft in the fight'n department. Wrong.

I've probably gone a little overboard with this thread, but it hacks me off, seriously.

Thanks, MNBlade for the book tip. Never read that one.

Good to 'see' you, Sarge. I'll send an email.

Phil
 
I lean about as far to the right as you can go, and I agree wholeheartedly with you, Phil, on this issue. There is no place in this country for anyone to make money from the bigotry of a group of hooded cowards.:mad:

Todd
 
Originally posted by Todd Robbins
I lean about as far to the right as you can go, and I agree wholeheartedly with you, Phil, on this issue. There is no place in this country for anyone to make money from the bigotry of a group of hooded cowards.:mad:

Todd
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That about sums it up. Wrong should be wrong no matter which way we lean.
 
Tex, good for you. I agree wholeheartedly with your efforts. But you know, I can think of a place for such items. A Freedom Center / Underground Railroad Museum is being constructed along the riverfront in Cincinnati, Ohio. Not only do I think it would be appropriate for the museum to display such items, I think it would be equally appropriate for the display to explain 1) that such items are contemporary (or relatively so) "commemoratives," 2) that contemporary (or relatively so) businesses profit(ed) from the sale of such items, and 3) that public trading of such items occurs on well-known internet sites.
 
I'm very Constitutionally conservative and would never buy a knife which commemorated hatred. However, I can't help but think about the exact same *feeling* which is used to promote such hatred to begin with.

How about the atheists who have so much hatred for any religious symbol, that they attempt to have any *hint* of it removed; specially from anywhere in the South and along with state flags and other symbols of the pre-civil war South? They think all those symbols are a target for their just wrath.

The Constitution which I defend provides the KKK with the *right* to association and free speech. I've seen-the-elephant for that to be so and for your right to your stated opinion. I don't think Parker or Taylor (or any other business) should be held responsible for whatever organization uses their services; except through your free choice not to buy it, or any of their knives if you choose not to.

Call and write, but any response will be a success of censorship and holding the *object* responsible for the hate...just as those who are afraid of guns want to ban the tool and not the one who uses it...
 
Actually,the knife companies don't make KKK knives.They are purchased and then modified.Case Knives had to defend themselves on a forum before for this kind of accusatory postings.Also I might add,personal beliefs aside.They have a right to sell this stuff as someone has a right to collect it.Don't like these types of knives,stop searching for them.Don't like a T.V. show you don't politically agree with,pick up your remote and make a decision we can all make for ourselves.One more fact for you to chew on,believe it or not there are black people who collect this stuff also.
 
Don't like the KKK or what they stand for.Some people collect KKK stuff
Don't like Hitler or what he stood for, but a lot of people collect different kinds of Nazi knives ect.
To each his own.
No need to be exposed to it.
My.o2
Randy
 
Frank Buster is one heck of a guy. You should meet him before attempting to drag his name thru the mud.
Greg
 
Frank Buster must have run out of names of soap opera's ("one life to live")to name his knives after. And gone for the Redneck-racist buying public to move a few knives. I did question the man about this, and he did not answer my email.

Sure, the Case example is infamous, and is brought up in all the knife forums once a year, at the least. But the Parker, Buster, Taylor knives? These APPEAR to me to have come from the factory, again, anything to sell a knife. Kinda keep in mind the heavy defense Case throws up every time that KKKCase comes up.

What's next, is someone here going to defend the use of the stars & bars on certain southern states flags? Whoops, I think someone already did. Keep in mind, however, that the confedate battle flag was added to those flags in the fifties, when the uppity negros and the federal government decided that all men really were created equal.

Yep, sure 'nuff, this thread should not have been started here in the slip join forum. My mistake. My apologies.
 
Something tells me the apology is not that genuine. When I read the entire post.

Lets talk knives here not politics nor flags nor racism.

If you want to bring up the subject of any thing put on a knife I think most of us are game, as long as we can leave the non-knife related stuff out.

In the meantime I think this thread has run it's course as far as meaningful knife content, so I will lock it.
 
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