The Kumar Karda

Howard Wallace

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I couldn’t resist buying one of these at Bill’s father’s day sale. Although John got the blem for $10 less, dagnabit! All mine turn into blems after the first use anyway.

It came today. Everything I get from HI seems to surprise me. I thought kardas were little. Most people would call this knife a large hunting knife. The blade is just a hair longer than my 6” Randall #1, and of comparable weight and balance. As a matter of fact, my Randall greeted it like a long lost son. I wonder if he got friendly with an exotic young Puukko in his youth, and this is the offspring.

The kamis (added in edit - I meant to say sarkis.) have been getting a lot of bad press lately, but I think they did a great job on this sheath. It’s wood covered leather like the khukuri sheaths, but very light. Considerably lighter than the Randall sheath, even without the stone. The sheath is strong too. The blade slips loosely into the sheath until the last inch, and then a tight friction fit at the end. The knife will not come out when I hold the sheath upside down unless I give it a quite vigorous snap.

The knife itself has the guardless style I like, although I wouldn’t give it to a young boy or someone inexperienced with guardless knives. The first time they stabbed a tree full force they’d cut themselves. I like trees so I don’t hurt them, but there are ways to keep your hand from sliding up. The handle is long enough to accommodate all four fingers, but short enough to curl the little finger under the butt for stabbing or drilling with the tip. In a reverse grip the thumb can cover the butt to provide grip security.

The blade is hefty enough to even consider light chopping. It is strong enough to support blows from a baton for cutting larger poles.

I’m not sure that I would use this knife to supplement a khukuri. It is a stand-alone knife in it’s own right. It’s something I would carry when a khukuri was too heavy or too much.

The knife has a simplicity and a rustic elegance that I find appealing. I like the wood handle.

I know Bill sold a few of these. What do you guys think of the ones you got?


[This message has been edited by Howard Wallace (edited 06-21-2000).]
 
Good grief, I didn't know I would be getting a bloody dagger!

Mine hasn't come yet but it already has a good home as a replacement for a missing karda in an old knife.

I think it's the sarkis vs kamis who seem to be getting the short end of the stick. After that photo Bill posted, no wonder he has an ulcer.

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JP
 
"The blade is just a hair longer than my 6” Randall #1"

It looked cute in the pictures. How does it compare to a Puuka? Is the blade thicker?

Howard, I am glad you mentioned how to stab safely with a guardless knife. I have been meaning to try the technique you mentioned with kevlar gloves on to see how it works.

Will

[This message has been edited by Will Kwan (edited 06-21-2000).]
 
Will,

The blade is thicker than most puukkos I have encountered. I'll take a measurement when I get home and post it.

Please be careful about stabbing with the technique I mentioned. Go slowly at first until you have a good idea of how much force it will take to rip your little finger off.
 
Just got my Kumar Karda today
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The blade geometry is not exactly Finnish or Scandinavian, which is not surprising since neither is Kumar. In the North Country knives the flats are parallel to each other, like many a saber grind, or even sloping backwards toward the spine as in the Kainuun Puukko Tommi knives. In the Kumar Karda, the "flats" are themselves in a Vee-grind, wider (c. 7/32") at the spine and tapering to c. 1/8" at the choil. The bevel is therefore not much steeper than it would be off 1/8" barstock. By eyeball, I think it may be a little under 3/16" thick at the grind lines.

And it's not a Nepali Puukko. It's a Nepali Leuku - a traditional pattern from Lappland.
KumarKarda-Leukus.jpg


The sheaths have nothing in common. The "north country" sheath is a deep dangler-pouch that hugs the handle, not the blade, and rides low. The Karda sheath hugs the blade, and fits nicely. The frog and belt loop are a bit light weight for my taste. The young lady at the mailboxes place where I picked it up thought the brass-tipped sheath would itself make an effective "persuader" where deadly force is not called for.

For situations far-removed from "use of force," the Kumar Karda looks like it could be useful as a camp cook's knife.

Here's a scan of it (click on the medium image for the big image):
<A HREF="http://www.chaicutlery.com/images/HI-Kumar-Karda.jpg" TARGET=_blank>
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A little surface irregularity is the fashion on some relatively expensive puukkos too.

And here's a digital photo. The digital camera sees that shiny knife a little more like the human eye does than the scanner does. It's also a little more merciful than the scanner since it doesn't have the resolution.
HI-Kumar-Karda-digicam.jpg


The front of the brass bolster is sealed with something that looks like JB Weld or Himalayan Epoxy. As opposed to a lot of working class Scandinavian and Finnish knives that let the customer deal with the little gap. The handle is nice hardwood - I don't know the species. I assume that the tang goes fairly far back inside the wood. Does it?

The blade would seem to be zone-tempered, since the blade on my leatherman will "blem" the Karda at the spine or at the grind line, but slides right off the steel at or next to the edge.

If you sharpen it Scandinavian style (and I'll want to sharpen this one a bit beyond "as-issued"), you'll lay the whole edge bevel down on the stone and erase the Kami's surface finish. I think I'll try just doing the very edge on a Spyderco Sharpmaker.

Overall it's a very nice knife for the price.


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- JKM
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I must say that is not what I was expecting. There is a hell of alot of knife there. It's great I love the thing. Hell I just asked Uncle Bill a question or two about them and he told me he was seding one with the Banspati. Both are great knives.
 
Gotta love that scanner.

It is not strange but wonderfully rewarding (somehow to me at least) to see good designs turn up in all sorts of different places. Kumar would be astounded. I'm going to try to get a pix over to him so he will know that he is brother to some knifemaker in Lappland!

Many thanks, James, for excellent and very valuable review. I live and learn.

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Blessings from the computer shack in Reno.

Uncle Bill
Himalayan Imports Website
Khukuri FAQ
 
Thanks for putting up the dimensions James.

Two strokes of a crockstick down each side of the blade edge got mine as sharp as I want it.
 
Seems like these little knives were fairly sharp when they arrived. If Kumar is in a real hurry he will send them too dull. Gelbu jumped him for not "finishing" the job and he has done better.

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Blessings from the computer shack in Reno.

Uncle Bill
Himalayan Imports Website
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