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Does anyone fancy this knife the large model and the smaller models? i'm looking that the large model with g10.

Some guy said this in a review these are not my words, ( about the regular size lum ) and i was wondering if it made any sense to anyone? " I'll start with the main problem of the knife. The blade has an asymmetrical gap on one side of the blade. It seems structurally weaker, since there aren't scales to hold the blade firmly if any sort of flex is applied. (Probably not going to happen with this knife, or how I use my knives, but still...we like our knives with way more structural strength than they need.) There are two different material and sized washers on either side of the blade. One is a skinny phosphor bronze washer, much thinner than a millimeter. I don't have any estimation nor know the measurement scale of stuff that small. The other washer is a thicker (right at the 1mm mark on a ruler) nylon washer. The thicker nylon washer is to give room for the detent ball bearing on the liner lock when the blade is closed. The knife itself opens smoothly, but the gap between the blade and the liner on one side looks poorly engineered and thought out and structurally weak, as I said before. The sound is pretty unsatisfying when it opens as well. It sounds cheap and flimsy, probably because of the nylon washer. This is really more a gentleman's folder or collector's item, but I think it's overpriced for what it is. Some may disagree, (and obviously do, because these knives sell). Bob Lum did recently die and it's nice to carry on his legacy. Who knows if it would be disrespectful to modify his design, and what I perceive as a major flaw. I did return the knife. "
 
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I had the large Lum. It's a beautiful knife. I found the lockup to be very confidence inspiring. And I remember it locking with a satisfying "thwack." I loved the large blade and choil-less design. The reason I sold it was because of how wide it is in the pocket. I couldn't easily fit my hand in my jeans pocket to pull out my wallet. Same problem with the Superleaf.
 
Buck knives I like said:
Does anyone fancy this knife the large model and the smaller models? i'm looking that the large model with g10.

Some guy said this in a review these are not my words, ( about the regular size lum ) and i was wondering if it made any sense to anyone? " I'll start with the main problem of the knife. The blade has an asymmetrical gap on one side of the blade. It seems structurally weaker, since there aren't scales to hold the blade firmly if any sort of flex is applied. (Probably not going to happen with this knife, or how I use my knives, but still...we like our knives with way more structural strength than they need.) There are two different material and sized washers on either side of the blade. One is a skinny phosphor bronze washer, much thinner than a millimeter. I don't have any estimation nor know the measurement scale of stuff that small. The other washer is a thicker (right at the 1mm mark on a ruler) nylon washer. The thicker nylon washer is to give room for the detent ball bearing on the liner lock when the blade is closed. The knife itself opens smoothly, but the gap between the blade and the liner on one side looks poorly engineered and thought out and structurally weak, as I said before. The sound is pretty unsatisfying when it opens as well. It sounds cheap and flimsy, probably because of the nylon washer. This is really more a gentleman's folder or collector's item, but I think it's overpriced for what it is. Some may disagree, (and obviously do, because these knives sell). Bob Lum did recently die and it's nice to carry on his legacy. Who knows if it would be disrespectful to modify his design, and what I perceive as a major flaw. I did return the knife. "
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Ahhh this dude sounds like a whiner to me.....one of those people who aren't satisfied if "I just batoned through a couple brick's with my $200 TI frame lock and it has lock rock?!?!? Whats wrong with this piece of crap?" I wouldn't take this dude to seriously, it sounds to me that he really wants to find something wrong with the knife....

also his logic of "the gap between the blade and the liner on one side looks poorly engineered and thought out and structurally weak" just sounds like a load of BS to me.....

take what I said with a grain of salt, I just stated my opinion haha!

I say buy the large Chinese!!! Also knife center has em for $100!

Have a good night!

-niner
 
I have the almite green w/ black blade Lum CF. While I doubt it would break in usage I think it's a light use knife. The light weight of it inspires different than normal grips, sometimes like a pen. The black DLC did hamper the pivoting action (until I sanded it :cool: )

I've thought of getting the Large one. I think it would carry well in the waistband since it's so thin and non-stick shaped. It's kind of disc-shaped iirc, sticks are pokey.
 
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9blades said:
Ahhh this dude sounds like a whiner to me.....one of those people who aren't satisfied if "I just batoned through a couple brick's with my $200 TI frame lock and it has lock rock?!?!? Whats wrong with this piece of crap?" I wouldn't take this dude to seriously, it sounds to me that he really wants to find something wrong with the knife....

also his logic of "the gap between the blade and the liner on one side looks poorly engineered and thought out and structurally weak" just sounds like a load of BS to me.....

take what I said with a grain of salt, I just stated my opinion haha!

I say buy the large Chinese!!! Also knife center has em for $100!

Have a good night!

-niner
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Yup, knife center is the place to go. Also, can anyone tell me if the g10 large lum chinese is discontinued? Edit: Also I appreciate and agree with your post.
 
Buck knives I like said:
Yup, knife center is the place to go. Also, can anyone tell me if the g10 large lum chinese is discontinued? Edit: Also I appreciate and agree with your post.
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The large g10 Chinese is discontinued.....but there's still the smaller glass fiber version.
 
My problem with the regular Lum Chinese is the handle is on the small side for my hands, and the smooth scales combined with the smooth taper of the handle do not inspire confidence in the grip they provide. The Large in G-10 feels much better in hand, and is a real workhorse of a knife.

P.S. The reviewer you quoted shouldn't be allowed to own knives.
 
I was hoping that someone could shed some light on a handle question I had about the carbon fiber handle chinese lum, some people are saying it is not carbon fiber but " fake carbon fiber " or " glass fiber " I thought glass fiber was just another name for carbon fiber but maybe not, and I have no clue if it makes sense. but people seem to think it isn't genuine.
 
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Buck knives I like said:
I was hoping that someone could shed some light on a handle question I had about the carbon fiber handle chinese lum, some people are saying it is not carbon fiber but " fake carbon fiber " or " glass fiber " I thought glass fiber was just another name for carbon fiber but maybe not, and I have no clue if it makes sense. but people seem to think it isn't genuine.
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To be clear it is a type of carbon fiber.

basically imagin this: when they make fiber glass they start with glass fibers, weave them into a cloth, the inpregnant that cloth with resin to harden it.

Now they do basically the same thing with carbon fiber laminates, they impregnate carbon fiber cloth with resin to harden it, nishijin carbon fiber is made slightly different from normal carbon fiber.

when they make nishijin carbon fiber, they start by weaving the cloth from carbon fibers but unlike normal carbon fiber the nishijin uses glass (I don't really know how to explain this part) but basically the carbon fibers ar bonded with the glass fibers (with heat I think) to make one strand to be woven and made into a cloth and that's why it has the sparkle and is sometimes called glass fiber.......

I don't know if that made sense, feel free to ask questions though!

Hope it helps!

-niner
 
Thank you again for your posts niner I appreciate it as always. I do have just two questions, I have no clue even about normal carbon fiber, so the difference with the ( Nishijin ) Carbon fiber used in the Chinese lum is it uses both carbon fibers and glass fibers where as the ( regular ) carbon fiber is only carbon fiber right? so pretty much just trading out less carbon fiber with glass fiber?, I just want to clear that up because I am curios also if the method for the Nishijn way is a way to just improve the look or is it also a cost cutting method to save money? thank you as always man.


9blades said:
To be clear it is a type of carbon fiber.

basically imagin this: when they make fiber glass they start with glass fibers, weave them into a cloth, the inpregnant that cloth with resin to harden it.

Now they do basically the same thing with carbon fiber laminates, they impregnate carbon fiber cloth with resin to harden it, nishijin carbon fiber is made slightly different from normal carbon fiber.

when they make nishijin carbon fiber, they start by weaving the cloth from carbon fibers but unlike normal carbon fiber the nishijin uses glass (I don't really know how to explain this part) but basically the carbon fibers ar bonded with the glass fibers (with heat I think) to make one strand to be woven and made into a cloth and that's why it has the sparkle and is sometimes called glass fiber.......

I don't know if that made sense, feel free to ask questions though!

Hope it helps!

-niner
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If anything, the Nishijin version would be more expensive to produce, but not quite as strong as pure carbon fiber. Being laid over full liners, the strength of the scales is pretty much irrelevant anyway. Some of the carbon fiber scales are just a veneer laminated to G-10 for that reason, but I don't know if that is the case here.
 
Buck knives I like said:
Thank you again for your posts niner I appreciate it as always. I do have just two questions, I have no clue even about normal carbon fiber, so the difference with the ( Nishijin ) Carbon fiber used in the Chinese lum is it uses both carbon fibers and glass fibers where as the ( regular ) carbon fiber is only carbon fiber right? basically yes, but just to be clear (Nishijin) starts with one glass fiber and one carbon fiber which are the bonded together (again I think by heat) so pretty much just trading out less carbon fiber with glass fiber?, yes I just want to clear that up because I am curios also if the method for the Nishijn way is a way to just improve the look or is it also a cost cutting method to save money? i think its just for Aesthetics. also I actually think it would cost more (I might be wrong) but there's more steps in manufacturing, so it might slightly raise the cost thank you as always man. glad to be of some help!!
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Um...I still don't know if that made sense I'm still half asleep lol:p

Good morning!

-niner
 
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