The new old big dui chirra

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Uncle,
The big dui chirra by Bura arrived today, and it is an impressive piece. I think it proves that the kamis can closely duplicate any old design using an accurate mold of the original. There are a few minor differences, but most are attributable to failure on this end to communicate all the design parameters of the original. The new one is heavier, though not unpleasantly so, and looking at the two side by side I realize why, as you said, half a mold doesn't give the kami enough info. The difference is in distal taper. The new one follows standard BirGorkha practice: spine of uniform thickness from bolster to a point above the sweet spot, slight taper to a point .5" from the tip, then a sharp taper for the last .5". The original is uniform from the bolster to the point where the blade begins to curve downward, then tapers uniformly to the tip. There is no way Bura could have discerned this from the model, and it wasn't until I held the two side by side that I realized how much distal taper the original has. Also, as I noted, the cho on the new version is about .25" farther toward the tip than the original. I suspect the kamis have moved the cho forward for reasons of greater strength, and are not inclined to revert to ancient practices they consider inferior. In fact the entire area from cho to bolster is beefier on the new one, which doesn't detract from the aesthetics.
Other than that, seeing the two together is an eerie experience, like looking at 2 knives from the same production run, one of which got rode hard and put away wet, and one of which is still as new. The old one fits in the new scabbard, though about an eighth of an inch of blade shows. With the weathered leather and the beautiful karda and chakma, it looks like a perfect original rig, complete with tinder pouch. I am sure you are right about the age of the horn handles; they have a wonderful age patina, although the blades are new and terrific.
The matching frog makes the sash-type scabbard extremely versatile. I envision displaying it with the old khukuri and the horn handled knives, then putting the new one in it, adding the frog, and substituting a newer pair of knives for field use.
The wood certainly could be chandan, but needs an application of Murphy soap and some Tru Oil before I can make a comparison. Whatever, it's going to be wonderful for practicing advanced woodchuckery.
I could go on and on in great detail, and would cheerfully do so but for fear of using more bandwidth and patience than I'm entitled to. Will gladly answer any questions by email.
Taken all together, I think it's an eleven out of ten production. My sincerest thanks to all whose efforts have contributed to bringing it about.
Berk
 

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Many thanks for good report from the field, Berk. Like you, I rate the quality of the rig high 10/10 and with the aged horn and leather you have to give it a little extra. I do think the half model buzzed them a little so they had to use it + pix and came pretty close -- I'd give them 90 to 95 percent faithful.

In all, it's not a throw away.
 
They even seem to have duplicated the larger, more symmetrical ring that's on the old handle, although it looks like they put in more flare to a larger butt. I would think the larger butt makes it more secure. How do these old or old-style handles with the larger ring compare to the current style??
 
Firkin, the handle on the new one isfaithful to the model,which Brett restored to replace some missing wood which was broken off of the bottom on the original. I really like the proportions of this handle, but I have small Nepali-sized hands.
 
Thanks, Berk, I've noticed that many of the older khuks that are pictured seem to have a substantially more pronounced ring that has a kind of "V" shape and the the BirGhorka style seems to be tapered on the side towards the blade, and then cut straight into the handle on the butt side. I found it interesting that they replicated the older style handle, but Uncle's influence may be reflected here. I'm deighted you"re pleased with the final result. The whole set-up is quite beautiful.
 
Is it my imagination or did the kamis add a Hump to the spine on the new model that wasn't on the older one?

Don't get me wrong I LOVE this khuk:) I would be ordering one now if I had the money.
 
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