The orange juice massacre!!!!

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jacobsblades

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Well today I had a rather bad discovery today. My better half had some orange juice and set the half full glass on a table were several of my slip joints lay.
That glass of oj spilled all over my knives... mostly just a few spots here and there or a black backspring, but it had to be the worse on my tc barlow of course. The whole side of it was soaked in the oj the yellow bone has dulled and lifted. Also the bolster was basically black, but a quick polish took care of that. My question to you is there any fixes for this? Should I just throw it in my pocket and make it a user? Let this be a warning beware of orange juice as it hates knives!
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I'm thinking moisture caused the lift. If you want a quick answer use the cell phone trick and put it in some uncooked rice for half a day. It might just go back.
 
The swelling should go down as the bone dries out. Might take a while, but I'd leave it as is.

Make that Charlow a user. It's no longer mint, there's no point saving it for anyone but you.

- Christian
 
Did it just get doused and then taken out of the juice right away or did it sit there in the juice for hours? I'm very surprised to see that bone lift like that especially if it was just a quick spill then immediately picked the knife up out of the juice. That really sucks though man i feel your pain. I love those yellow bone Charlows and that would upset me for sure.
 
I hope you washed the knife under warm water for some time, lets not forget that citrus juice is a natural aggressive chemical - that's why they use it to make anti-graffiti solutions, paint remover for hands - its hang-of-a-aggressive.
I would personally really wash it under warm water and detergent, dry it out thoroughly with an air compressed air gun, and then soak the knife in Mineral oil for a few days, I suspect the orange juice may have crusted under the scales-then left a residue -which will only do harm from there? - just a theory :o
 
O.J.? NO J.
sorry to see that mate. I'd like to see a progress shot in the next week or so to see if it does "shrink back down".
fingers crossed. I hope you cried and said how its ruined and you need a new one now.Because thats what I would do. .
 
Alnamvet68 said:
I'm just wondering why the bone would lift...:confused:
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That's what puzzles me too. Is the bone not properly stabilized perhaps?

I actually cut up two oranges everyday at breakfast for juice and I find it will patina a knife quickly but nicely. Backsprings too get darker from the juice but I wipe the knife down and have not seen any damage to the bone at all. Although this is fresh OJ and carton stuff may have other additives.....:confused:

If it does his to bone, imagine what it's doing to teeth...aaarghhhh!!:eek::eek::D

Thanks, Will
 
Massacre!!!!!!! :eek:

I pulled one outta the bag and made an example of it it front of the others...there will be no juice problems in my house!

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Sorry for your mishap bud!
 
I'm sorry to see that your knife has suffered a bit here amigo.

I don't want to be doom and gloom about this, but I would be surprised if the scales do settle back flush, only from experience I have myself of bone lifting in the past. It could likely be warped for good.

Certainly you should follow the advice above about a thorough clean and drying. But I would be prepared to consider running some CA down the back of the scale, shimming a piece of suitably wide metal in between the liners (i.e. the blade recess) and then clamping the knife up.

I have used the following method on a few puukko projects where I've used antler as the guard/bolster and it seals very well indeed....

To protect and seal the knife from any future moisture issues and the darkening of the grain, you could clean the scales with some kind of alcohol and then rub CA into the surface of the knife, with a piece of food wrap over the end of the finger. With several layers/applications, you can 'rub down' with some 0000 wire wool between coats, and then carefully (so as not to burn) buff/polish up the final layer.

Fingers crossed you'll not need to do all that though. Please post back and let us know either way though!
 
scruffuk said:
But I would be prepared to consider running some CA down the back of the scale, shimming a piece of suitably wide metal in between the liners (i.e. the blade recess) and then clamping the knife up.
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Question......what is CA? Thanks.
 
scruffuk said:
I'm sorry to see that your knife has suffered a bit here amigo.

I don't want to be doom and gloom about this, but I would be surprised if the scales do settle back flush, only from experience I have myself of bone lifting in the past. It could likely be warped for good.

Certainly you should follow the advice above about a thorough clean and drying. But I would be prepared to consider running some CA down the back of the scale, shimming a piece of suitably wide metal in between the liners (i.e. the blade recess) and then clamping the knife up.

I have used the following method on a few puukko projects where I've used antler as the guard/bolster and it seals very well indeed....

To protect and seal the knife from any future moisture issues and the darkening of the grain, you could clean the scales with some kind of alcohol and then rub CA into the surface of the knife, with a piece of food wrap over the end of the finger. With several layers/applications, you can 'rub down' with some 0000 wire wool between coats, and then carefully (so as not to burn) buff/polish up the final layer.

Fingers crossed you'll not need to do all that though. Please post back and let us know either way though!
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The best advice ,so far,IMO. The bone you guys love so much, is not that great a material for a knife handle. They used it all the time in the olden days because it was cheap,readily available & there was not much synthetic stuff or,better materials. Now all the Co's use it because they are trying to keep the look of a traditional knife as was then,but,that does not make the material any better for scales.
 
scruffuk said:
I have used the following method on a few puukko projects where I've used antler as the guard/bolster and it seals very well indeed....

To protect and seal the knife from any future moisture issues and the darkening of the grain, you could clean the scales with some kind of alcohol and then rub CA into the surface of the knife, with a piece of food wrap over the end of the finger. With several layers/applications, you can 'rub down' with some 0000 wire wool between coats, and then carefully (so as not to burn) buff/polish up the final layer.
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Good advice.

That's called a "CA finish" and commonly used by us woodturners on hand-turned pens, etc. It gives the object a nice glossy finish and protects the wood well. But be warned that it can be a messy project. Protect the bolsters, blade, liner, and your fingers as best you can.
 
addylo said:
Good advice.

That's called a "CA finish" and commonly used by us woodturners on hand-turned pens, etc. It gives the object a nice glossy finish and protects the wood well. But be warned that it can be a messy project. Protect the bolsters, blade, liner, and your fingers as best you can.
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And keep a little bit of acetone nearby in case of "stuck fingers! " ;)
 
I have no experience with OJ on my knives, but my personal experience with coffee staining my bone handled knives (I've let a few sit in a strong brew to mellow out overly white bone) has been the scales lifting away from the liners (not on all knives though), but usually within a day, they're back snug and tight. I'm amazed that a quick spill would lead to such dramatic and quick results though, it usually takes a while for liquids to soak into bone, or even discolor metal like you describe.

~Jim
 
Campbellclanman said:
I hope you washed the knife under warm water for some time, lets not forget that citrus juice is a natural aggressive chemical - that's why they use it to make anti-graffiti solutions, paint remover for hands - its hang-of-a-aggressive.
I would personally really wash it under warm water and detergent, dry it out :o
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Thanks yeah I washed it out very well! And used a hair drying on it right away!

meako said:
O.J.? NO J.
sorry to see that mate. I'd like to see a progress shot in the next week or so to see if it does "shrink back down".
fingers crossed. I hope you cried and said how its ruined and you need a new one now.Because thats what I would do. .
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I'll upload some when I get home from work! Wasn't one of my happiest times haha!!


jkulysses said:
Did it just get doused and then taken out of the juice right away or did it sit there in the juice for hours? I'm very surprised to see that bone lift like that especially if it was just a quick spill then immediately picked the knife up out of the juice. That really sucks though man i feel your pain. I love those yellow bone Charlows and that would upset me for sure.
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It was soaked in it for quite a few hours I would guess!

Sorry for such a quick and crappy response I'm on lunch break on my phone and thought I should quick say something. So far the bone has gone down a bit to my surprise! It's almost a smooth transition from bone to bolster. I'll upload some pictures and make a better response once I'm on the computer. Thanks for all the quick responses there all greatly appreciated!
 
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Heres a picture of it today. It's almost back to normal which is crazy! I'm not expecting it to be back to normal but now its not noticeable in use! Thanks again for all the good advice! I guess im just getting luck?
 
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