The Other Army Knife

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Here is an interesting knife, worthy of a review. This is actually one of the longest lived models in knife history. It is the Camillus model 1760, also known as the “DEMO knife”. It became US Military issue back in the 1940's, and remained as issue until this century, almost unchanged through that period of time. That's quite a long run for a slipjoint. I was never in the military, but came to know this knife due to a matter of proximity. I grew up in Upstate New York, which was Camillus country. If you went camping in Upstate New York during the last 20 years of the last century, you probably saw as many DEMO knives as you did Swiss Army Knives.

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From a slipjoint point of view, I guess that you'd call this a scout or camping pattern. It has the same basic layout as most scout knives. The main blade shares a back spring with an awl. The can opener shares a back spring with a cap lifter. Unlike other scout and Swiss Army knives, the DEMO knife has no bone, plastic, brass or aluminum. It is all stainless steel. This is one tough knife. Probably as close to indestructible as you can find in a slipjoint.

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In addition to the stainless steel scales, the DEMO knife does have a few other distinguishing characteristics. Oddly enough, this knife happens to have an extremely long bail. When I say long, I mean approximately twice as long as most every other scout pattern knife. And this bail, like the rest of the knife, is tough as nails. When you tether this knife to a lanyard, you can be confident that the knife will still be tethered when you need it. Unlike some Swiss Army knives, the bail is riveted to the knife, instead of being pressed into the hole of a hollow rivet. The firm riveted construction keeps the bail from flopping around too much, making it far less likely that you'll accidentally close the knife blade on the bail, thus nicking the blade.

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When you need to open a can of baked beans on your next camping trip, you will know exactly what tool to use. The can opener is distinctly labeled “CAN OPENER” on the DEMO knife. Why only the can opener is labeled is a mystery that only the US Military can answer. Everybody who looks at this knife comments about the odd labeling of the can opener.

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The awl is interesting in that it is not a flat piece of steel, or one with a bend like a Swiss Army knife. The 1760's awl is actually concave on one side, and convex on the other. And for some odd reason, the tip is rounded instead of being pointed.

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The cap lifter, like many scout cap lifters, has a built in flathead screwdriver. Unlike many scout knives, this cap lifter is extremely long, with a much longer reach than a Swiss Army knife.

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The blade is the same basic shape as most scout knives. It does have a bit more belly than a comparable Swiss Army knife. One odd thing about the blade is that the tip does not rest inside of the handle when closed. It rides along side the cap lifter and the awl. This poses no immediate safety problem, but could be an issue if the tip were ever to snap off.

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The fit and finish of DEMO knife is nothing to write home about. The walk and talk of the knife is very good, but the fit of the knife itself is pretty rough. There are lots of spots that could use some rounding on the edges, and plenty of spots could use a good deal more polishing. All in all, the quality of craftsmanship is not even remotely in the league of Victorinox, or even Wenger for that matter. It's kind of like comparing a Leatherman tool to a SwissTool. You can a great design with a considerable amount of rough edges. Not pretty, but extremely functional.

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All in all, the Camillus 1760 is a wonderfully functional knife. Would I choose it over a Wenger Standard Issue or a Victorinox Soldier? I personally prefer the Vics and Wengers for EDC carry. They are far more refined, and have a useful phillips screwdriver built into the can opener. The Swiss alox scales are also less slippery than the stainless steel DEMO knife scales. But if I were out hiking or camping, I'd probably carry the 1760. It's not quite as stainless as a Swiss Army knife, but it does have the tougher overall construction. The flathead is more useful, and the blade has a bit more belly. Most of all, the DEMO knife has that sensational bail, so I know that the knife will never get lost.

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For you collector's of scout patterns, the DEMO knife is worth looking for. There are tons of them on Ebay. This knife was made for a long, long time, so there are plenty of them out there. Also, you can still find new ones in surplus military issue survival kits, which is how I happened upon mine.

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It is worth mentioning that this same style knife is still in production. There is a Schrade version, the SCAMP4, which looks nearly identical, other than the lack of can opener labeling and the Schrade lettering on the scales. This knife is manufactured by Taylor Cutlery and sells for very little cash. I don't own one personally, so I can't vouch for the quality of the knife. There is also the ON8980 sold by Ontario. It retains the can opener labeling and stamping of the stainless scales, but carries a pretty hefty cost. I can't vouch for the quality of this model either. I hope that maybe somebody can chime in as to how well the Schrade and Ontario versions are crafted.
 
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Awesome review, thanks! I owned one of the Camillus models (from 1979 I believe), and while it was a very sturdy and impressive little pocket knife, the can opener nearly tore my thumbnail off trying to open it. If my nails were already trimmed I had to use a plier/multi-tool to get the can opener out. I like the SAK's much better, but the Camillus was/is a bombproof little pocket knife worthy of anyone's collection.
 
Thanks for the review!

Great comparison.
 
So a vet of four wars and one "police action."

As made by Kingston, it was even an official Boy Scouts of America knife briefly following WWII. Carbon steel tools at that time.
 
kinda, sorta, like the TL-29 a little more. paul

I've got one of those on my work bench in the garage. It's on the blocks for some new scales and a new pivot. My father-in-law used it during the Korean War, and it's looking pretty rough.
 
is the "DEMO" folder currently produced by any other manufacturng concern since the demise of the Camillus facility?
 
great comparision, the demo knife was the one that got me into the saks, especially sak soldier, since i couldn't find the original camillus
great design, very usefull, in a small package
thanks for the pics and thoughts
 
i'm wonderin if it would be possible to do a little modification/upgrade to the 1760 as some guys do to the buck 110 ? i'd be willing to donate mine for some one to " play " with. paul
 
Nice review! I still have my dad's marked Camillus, 1967. I need to get one of my own, his is kept safe.

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is the "DEMO" folder currently produced by any other manufacturng concern since the demise of the Camillus facility?

You never made it to the end of the review. :p:p:p

It is worth mentioning that this same style knife is still in production. There is a Schrade version, the SCAMP4, which looks nearly identical, other than the lack of can opener labeling and the Schrade lettering on the scales. This knife is manufactured by Taylor Cutlery and sells for very little cash. I don't own one personally, so I can't vouch for the quality of the knife. There is also the ON8980 sold by Ontario. It retains the can opener labeling and stamping of the stainless scales, but carries a pretty hefty cost. I can't vouch for the quality of this model either. I hope that maybe somebody can chime in as to how well the Schrade and Ontario versions are crafted.
 
Ontario bought the rights to produce the knife, I assume to continue the military contract. The blade is either 440A, 440B, or late models were 420HC. I carry one and alternate it with my Vic Farmer. I learned on this pattern of blade - boy scout model from Imperial back in the 80's. As a result I have a sentimental attachment to this type of knife. They are still readily available on the 'bay, and you can also check out Don Rearic's site for some history and info on the knife itself.
 
Great underrated knife. I have had one about fifteen years. They sharpen very easily also. The new ones are running around $40, which is kind of high, but it is worth it.
 
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