The Pleasures of Dealing with Lesser-Known Makers (or, my new Dennis Riley Bowie)

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First of all, “lesser-known makers” is probably not a fair characterization…I suppose I really should say makers that were relatively unknown to me ;).

I’ve only been collecting handmade knives for about five years (even though I’ve been accumulating knives of one sort or the other all my life), and I certainly can’t lay any claim to the scope or depth of expertise of a lot of the members here. Like a lot of the folks here, I made the progression from factory knives to small shop/benchmade pieces like Randalls and eventually on to single-maker handmade knives (see how hard I tried to avoid the dreaded “c” word? ;)). After dabbling in several different styles, I’ve found that I have a definite affinity for traditionally-styled forged fixed blades. Over the last few years I’ve managed to assemble a modest collection of a few mid-range blades that I enjoy quite a bit. None of these knives are high-end pieces, but there’s a nice variety of working grade knives from some well-respected and popular makers (P.J. Tomes, Ed Caffrey, John Fitch, etc.). I also have some pretty nice pieces from some of the better-known stock removal guys.

Since I’m not independently wealthy, I’ve been trying to look for some quasi-affordable ways to scratch this particular itch. As much as I’d love to own knives from all of the ABS Master Smiths, these pieces tend to cost a little bit more than I can generally afford to spend. Costs aside, many of the more popular makers have waiting lists that are years long (and several have stopped accepting new order altogether). I haven’t been able to get to any of the major custom knife shows, so my exposure to other makers is pretty much limited to on-line dealers, forums such as this and the various knife mags. Fortunately for folks like me, these forums have proven to be an invaluable resource for discovering craftsmen that I would never learn about otherwise.

Through my participation in these forums, I have been introduced to a number of makers that I never would have encountered through more “conventional” means. I’ve referred to these gentlemen as lesser-known makers, but I certainly don’t mean that in any pejorative sense. Some of these guys are relatively new makers, but in many cases they folks with years of experience who simply haven’t achieved (or sought) the level of recognition enjoyed by some of their fellow artists. Some are only part-time makers; some may produce only a couple of knives a year. A lot of these guys are well known and respected in their regional markets, but for one reason or another they have not developed a widespread following. I may have been unusually lucky, but every time that I have dealt with this category of maker I have been extremely pleased with both the quality and value of the knives that I received. I may be a bit of a dilettante in the world of custom knives; I buy “what I like”, and am not overly concerned with the future value of my purchases (Les would probably accuse me of not doing my homework :)). That being said, I often feel like I get more “bang for my buck” from some of these less-well-known makers than I do from some of the “big names”. Don’t get me wrong…I am in no way suggesting that knives from the big guys are not a great value…I would buy lots more of them if I could afford to do so. I guess what I’m (awkwardly) trying to say is that some of the lesser-known makers offer a great opportunity for the impoverished cutlery enthusiast to pick up some really nice knives at very reasonable costs. They’re usually pretty cool guys, too ;).

To illustrate my point, I’d like to share a picture of my latest acquisition (thanks to Dennis Riley for the image). This is a hand-forged Bowie knife from Arkansas maker Dennis Riley. Dennis started posting some of his work on the Knife Maker’s Corner of BFC a few months ago; I was not familiar with his work prior to that time. Since the knives he featured were the very types that I prefer to collect (and appeared to be quite reasonably priced), I decided to contact him to get some more information about his work. We exchanged several e-mails, he politely answered all of my questions, and I decided go ahead and place an order. The knife pictured below is the result. It is Dennis’ “Arkansas Governor’s Bowie” model; it has a 9-¾“ blade and a 15” overall length. The blade is zone-hardened, triple tempered 5160 steel with a visible temper line; the handle is crown stag. The Bowie has an “S” guard and spacer of stainless steel. Balance point is mid-way along the ricasso, approximately ½“ in front of the hilt. The grinds on the Bowie are excellent, as is the overall fit-and-finish. The knife is frighteningly sharp along its entire cutting edge :D.

I’ll admit that I was a little hesitant when I first contacted Dennis Riley about this knife…I hadn’t heard anything but good things about his work, but it was still an unknown quantity to me. As it turned out, I had no need to be concerned; this knife is the equal of any blade in my collection. The knife was delivered well ahead of schedule and is by far the best value that I have found in this type of blade. I’m not trying to turn this into a sales pitch for Dennis’ work (I don’t think he needs any help from me), but I did want to encourage y’all to take a look at some of the lesser-known players in the knife-making world…there are some really nice surprises out there :).
 

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That's a great Bowie, thank you for sharing your story and photo! :) It's nice to have somebody stick up for us little guys! ;)

Thanks,
Nick
 
Very nice workmanship. You've done well.
 
Boy, there is a lot to like about that knife. The curved edge give it a lot of character. Good choice!
 
I have been seeing a lot of Dennis Riley's knives on EBay over the past year or more when Sandman3 was offering them. I have been greatly attracted to them especially with his reasonable pricing. I have not seen many on EBay recently so perhaps Dennis is now doing his own marketing via the Forums.

Hopefully, there will be something that just hollers at me "buy me" like this dagger did from one of the "little guys"--Nick Wheeler

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Jim, the only thing that surpasses that wonderful knife is your writing. It's a pleasure. Thanks for your time!! Great points we ALL can relate to. :D

Coop
 
Have to agree. All of my "true customs" are from relatively unknown makers. In my case they are all hunting/skinning/utility knives, but it just worked out that way as my selection of higher quality larger blades and folders happen all to come from "small shops" (like Reeve, Livesay, and Dozier) and therefore are not "true customs".

I have found those customs I own to be of very high quality and very functional. You get very reasonable prices on such knives relative to well known makers with appropriate adjustments made for art vs users. This is especially so in fixed blades. Folders are understandably more work, and therefore more expensive even from newer knife makers.
 
Some of my favorite folders have been made by a local guild member in my area named Paul Meyers, he makes traditional slipjoints and lockbacks, primarily out of 440C steel. His fit and finish are superb and his prices are second to none. I feel like I'm in a select or secret club since I own such cool knives that are not really known to the wider knifenut community.
 
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