The politics of knives and culture

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Today I had an idle moment, so I went to the local Sportsman's Warehouse and perused the knife displays. There I beheld a knife I had never seen before that turned out to be a Ka-Bar 1277, their 14+inch Bowie. I asked the clerk if I might see it. He handed it to me and I knew immediately something was not right. The price was less than the smaller Ka-Bar fighting knives that remained in the case.

So I flipped it around, yep Made in Taiwan.

Too bad. I gave it right back.

Now, before anyone gets their knickers knotted up over that, I'd like to explain something--I have no problem buying foreign knives. In my humble collection I have Victorinoxes from Switzerland, Opinels from France, puukkos from Finland, and some Spydercos from Japan.:D

But I draw a line.

I am not buying a Bowie inspired anything from Taiwan. I wouldn't buy a puukko made in Spain. I don't want a Khukuri from Arkansas or a parang from Brazil. Only rarely does anything at all from Cold Steel even draw my momentary interest.;)

I am not a hardcase about this. If I ever want a custom wazikashi, I'll give an American bladesmith with the ability the first crack over learning Japanese to talk with a genuine mokume gane mastersmith and overpaying in yen. The maker's mark will be on it no matter where that person is from. In Ka-Bar's case, that mark became a trademark. I don't consider the 1277 to be a real Ka-Bar because then it would have been stamped "Olean NY."

So, am I alone in not having any interest in, say, American rebadging efforts? Disdain for the alien factory manufacture of culturally distinct designs? Or is it just me? If I want a distinctly American knife, I want it to be American, just like I wouldn't want a Portugese-made Winchester lever rifle. If I want a golok, I'll go for one made where the tool is understood, not just where it was conveniently cheap to do so. I'd rather buy from a foreign manufacturer than a domestic importer too.

On the one hand I feel petty, and on the other I know I am right.
 
I would have done the same thing, man. In fact I HAVE done that exact same thing before. I'm sure we all have. It's very disapointing in deed. I don't mind some foriegn knives as well, Vic, Helle, Mora, anything from seki japan...but there really are some countrys to stay away from. The japanese are very intricate in their craft, along with most northern europeans, but most asian and middle eastern makers don't know what the #@%#@ there doing!
 
Speaking of Winchester, I overheard a clerk at L.L. Bean's hunting store last week, saying that Winchester is no longer making the model 94 and 70...??? Anyone else heard this???
Yes, I agree with you, if I'm buying a Ka-Bar, I want it to say USA on it. I like my Cold Steel, but I know what I am buying, and I don't have the "made in the USA" stigma attachted to my Cold Steel purchases.
 
The US Repeating Arms Company, currently licensed to manufacture Winchester Rifles is being put out to pasture by FN-Herstal, the owner of the plant in CT. The Winchester trademark reverts to Olin, its true owner, next year. FN wants to continue to use it, but Olin seems to be disinclined.

Therefore, the end of Winchester rifles and shotguns, but not ammunition, seems to be a done deal. Olin doesn't seem too keen on the Winchester brand being exclusively put on European and Japanese sourced longarms as FN wants to simply drop the levers and Model 70.
 
BOATS; Thanks for the details, sad as they are. I guess I'll cherish my 1886 lever .33 a little more now. I never thought Win would stop making 94's...
 
I have a similar feeling, although towards brands rather than styles. If it's an American brand, or Japanese brand, etc. For instance, I don't mind a bowie knife from Seki City or a Khukri from Michigan, but I don't want a Buck from China or a Grohmann from Taiwan.

-Bob
 
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