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Bill wrote -

"We need to start the yataghan thread."

OK; here goes.

Who, apart from me, would be interested in a HI yataghan?

Looking at the pix of the King Kobra, I believe Kumar could make a superb yataghan; he's obviously got the skill, he likes the longer, slimmer blades, and he's shown that he's not afraid to experiment.

Let me propose some outline specs, as a basis for discussion;

blade length; 25" or thereabouts
blade thickness; 3/8", tapering to 1/4"
blade width; 1 1/8" at ricasso.
blade profile; does anybody have both (a) a copy of 'The Book Of The Sword' by Richard F Burton (Dover; 1987 reprint of the original, first published 1884), and (b) a scanner? If so, there are pics of the 2 main yataghan styles on page 134.

To try and put it into words; take the King Kobra and flatten out the bend slightly; also move the bend slightly back towards the handle; upsweep the last four to six inches; add a lopsided. asymmetrical khukuri handle whose pommel is bent inwards towards the blade, so that the top of the handle is straight.

By combining both concave and convex in one cutting edge, the yataghan first slices, then shears; in other words, it cuts with augmented mechanical efficiency throughout the entire length of the stroke. As for stabbing, the yataghan is capable of making the 'curved thrust' that so impressed Col Marey and the French army in the mid 19th century; it's the only curved blade with which you can aim a thrust instinctively, instead of having to make forward allowance.

The martial arts possibilities of the yataghan are endless, allowing scope for move and cuts that wouldn't be possible with any other weapon. As a tool, I can see the yataghan being the ultimate machete, allowing the user to cut more foliage with each stroke, therefore proving quicker and less tiring than a conventional configuration. As a thing of beauty and a joy forever; well, as soon as someone posts some pix, you'll be able to see that aspect for yourselves...

Any takers?
 
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I would be interested a little later on.
I want to get the Yvsa Special first.
I believe that Kumar has the capabilities to produce a yataghan and that of course H.I.'s would be the best going. Are we gonna have coral or some other semi-precious gemstone embedded like in some of the originals? (VBESEG)


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Hmmm... This sounds really interesting. I will have to look and see what a yataghan looks like. Gonna go surfin' Anything from HI is great. Kinda like a grown up Pokeman... gotta get 'em all?

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"Clear a path for the Kukhri or it will clear one for itself"
 
I have the book of the sword and I'll see if I can get the pix posted but somebody will have to keep reminding me.

We will need a sketch with dimensions and if that doesn't work we will need the wood prototype.

If we get five takers we'll make a coupel of prototypes and see how they look. Depending of final configuration look for a price of about $195.

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Blessings from the computer shack in Reno.

Uncle Bill
Himalayan Imports Website
Khukuri FAQ
 
Put me inthe takers on that one. By the time it actually gets done I will have the money for it. If I can get enoungh pics I can make the prototype?

Tom, you wanna send me specs and I can work on that?

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"Clear a path for the Kukhri or it will clear one for itself"
 

I've already spoken to Tom about this, and we've thought a little of this through. Sorry Matt, but Tom really should make the prototype. I don't think anyone has the dimensions so firmly rooted in his head as Tom. Also, beacause he introduced the idea he should build it. Count me in on this one Bill, I told Tom I would buy whenever he decided to bring it up. Not to mention the fact that I've wanted one for a little while now. So come on Tom! Hurry up and get that wooden modle built.

- D
 
Count me in too!

Are we talking about 25" OAL or a 25" blade plus a 5" or 6" handle?

-Dave
 
I put "yataghan" in a search engine and one of the hits I got was:
http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/pat06.html
It doesn't show the whole sword though. You can click on Table of Contents and read some interesting stuff on laminated steel swords though. No one is considering this for the materials are they? Does somebody actually know this site/author?

Then I found this place:
http://swordforum.com/jan99/main.html

Just what I need, another place to visit and another forum to read!

I got this place too but I don't see a reference to the subject itself?
http://www.antiqueswords.com/Swords.htm

If I keep reading about stuff like this I won't ever have any money!

Gregg
 
OK; Bill, if I draw a couple of preliminary sketches and fax them to you, perhaps you could post them here so folks can say if they like what they see, and suggest the modifications they want. Then I should be able to make up a wooden pattern and ship it to Bill for the kamis to take a look at.

Would that be OK?
 
OK, Tom. The wood prototype is the best way to go. Kamis can come within 4 or 5 percent. With sketches and dimensions they sometimes miss badly. Remember, they are not educated but they are very highly skilled.

Use email for sketches, not FAX.

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Blessings from the computer shack in Reno.

Uncle Bill
Himalayan Imports Website
Khukuri FAQ
 
I think Yataghan is not a type of utility knife but is a type of sword - must be for MA purposes - so I guess this Yataghan weight is not more than 2 lbs - if it is more than 2 lbs I guess somehow it will bring down it's performance & effectivness.

NEPAL HO!
 
Having only seen one, the link I referenced, I can't say. The Burmese dha looks a lot like an O dachi( longer katana )with a kumar cobra type blade slightly curved as is a katana. Sonam, do you have any details on your dad's patang, where made, shape, dimensions, pictures? Birgorkha has the capability of making solid, beautiful swords. Be it katana, dha, yataghan...
 
I knew I should have gotten that vinyl keyboard cover to make the drool wipe off easier.
 
If Bura and the kamis say that they can do it and provide a top notch product, I am in!



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Harry

L'audace, toujours l'audace!!!
 
Thanks to Gregg and Rusty for providing the
links to the other blade websites! The Yataghan is a beautiful piece of bladecraft!
I also found the rendition of the Falcata
shown on the other blade forum online magazine to be very interesting. The grip area seems more conducive for thrusting, with
less likelihood for slippage while doing so.
I would LOVE to have both! Anyway, hope the
Yataghan project comes through, I'd like to order one in the future when my finances are
in better shape. Thanks....Frank
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