The Public Perception of Personal Knife Usage......A Cautionary Tale

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I used to carry a Buck model 527 pocket knife which had a 1 7/8 inch long plain edge blade. I carried this particular knife for so many years that I thought nothing of using it in any public venue. It was a nice small innocuous looking utility knife in appearance that would be considered belonging to the so called gentleman genre of pocket knives and certainly not related to a tactical weapon by any stretch of the imagination regardless of how elastic one's definition was of tactical. I thought that its scare factor was right up there along side the average pair of nail clippers. My belief in this matter was soon to be publicly disabused.

Two weeks before the September 11, 2001 terrorist's assault on this country I had to fly to Minneapolis. I carried the 527 in my pocket without any thought whatsoever. I was not necessarily overcome with unencumbered joy of having to fly again as I find the whole process to share more in common with the concept of an ordeal rather than a delightful experience since being tall resulted in sitting in a narrow seat with one's legs perilously angled in the general direction of one's shoulders. I was not looking forward to this mode of travel at all but time constraints and practicality ruled out driving to the city.

The return trip required that I fly to Washington D.C. in order to connect to a flight home to New England. It was a long layover and by the time we actually loaded the aircraft I was tired and more than a bit cranky. Little did I realize that the fun was just about to commence. We sat on the tarmac without any indication of actually making an attempt to take off from the runway for what seemed to be an interminable amount of time. I finally politely inquired of a passing steward why there appeared to be a unknown flight delay. He informed me the the Air Phone that was mounted on the back of the seat in front of me was not seated correctly in its cradle and he was off to try to find a suitable tool to address this issue.

I looked at the phone and thought that the way this trip was going there was a very real possibility that I might not return home while I was still capable of actually remembering the address where I lived. Without hesitation I removed my small knife and started poking around between the back of the handset and its cradle. I finished seating the handset fully in the cradle just as the steward returned with one of the plastic knives that airlines at that time issued to passengers for trying to cope with what passed for airline cuisine that they begrudgingly handed out to those whose misfortune was to have chosen this form of transportation in the first place.

The woman in the seat behind me started to scream HE'S GOT A KNIFE!!!!!! at the top of her lungs. The volume and intensity of her exclamation was such that it could have effectively been employed in place of a fog horn off the coast of a dangerously rocky shore in order to give warning to unwary mariners transiting the area. I looked at the steward and in a travel weary and fatigued voice said to him that FAA regulations allowed passengers to possess a knife whose blade length did not exceed 3 inches and this specific knife had a blade length of 1 and 7/8 inches. The steward to his credit calmly said that actually the regulations allowed passengers the possession of knives with a blade length of 4 inches maximum. He then gave me a slight nod of his head and strolled away.

Apparently the steward's explanation, which was delivered in a voice loud enough for the benefit of those in the cheap seats which actually included all of us, was not sufficient for the Snowflake who screamed and evidently was very disappointment that a SWAT team had not boarded the aircraft, threw out a few flashbangs and then proceeded to remove me in irons. The next public utterance from this dimwit was WHILE HE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED ON A SCHOOL GROUND WITH THAT KNIFE!!!!! I was sorely tempted to reply to her that she was actual irrefutable proof that there is no viable life forms at the shallow end of the gene pool but thought that these sorts of idiots will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience so what would be the point.

It also entered my thoughts that perhaps I could point out to this fool that the airlines have always provided a suitable self defense weapon to each individual passenger in the form of the glossy heavy magazine advertising things that most normal folks were not interested in buying even if they could afford to do so that resided in the back of the seat in front of each passenger. The simple addition of a few quarters in the center of the magazine followed by a tight rolling up of same transformed this high brow consumer media to a effective ersatz baton the application of which to the solar plexus end on or sideways to any available limb of the threat could be an effective self-defense tool. As far as I was aware passengers were allowed to carry change on their persons without restriction so this was a viable alternative for those choosing to take responsibility for their own individual safety in a moment of extremis. Instead of saying anything in response I concentrated on repeating my address to myself in a quiet voice which struck me as a more productive usage of my time.

I have read many comments over the years mentioning the universal ubiquitous nature of Swiss Army Knives and how many folks recognize them as the tools they are as opposed to their being a deadly weapon more appropriate to belonging in the armory of a Mall Ninja. While there will always be people whose first response to a life problem is to curl up on the floor in a fetal position while pleading in a whiny voice please don't hurt me there are still sufficient folks in my experience who understand that a SAK is definitely not the first choice of weapon to the criminal element and as such does not necessarily need to engender an unreasonable reaction of abject fear upon seeing one in the real world.

Knives and firearms share the same attribute that their very existence is not indicative of a discernable threat to Western Civilization for the simple reason that they do not have the inherent ability for a rational or irrational decision making process by themselves. Their employment is wholly governed by the actions of their owners. If you wave any knife around like a fool then you can expect to garner unwelcome attention and all that that entails. If you employ this most valuable of tools in a responsible low key manner then most, but not all witnesses to your usage of same will pass by without benefit of hysterical comment.

And if you happen to find yourself off shore in the Atlantic Ocean and hear what at first appearance strikes you as a fog horn warning of unfriendly shores directly in your path make sure you keep your knife firmly secured in your pocket just in case that woman from my flight has in fact secured employment as a replacement for a fog horn.......an interaction with her will just lead to feeling your brains start to dribble out you ears.....

Harry
 
You need to come on down to Texas, Harry. Its a whole different world.

Fixed blades on hips are not unknown, and pocket clips are as common as Yellow taxi's in New York city. The 'older' men who don't carry the modern one hand wonder knife will have a leather pancake sheath on the belt, just in back of the right hip, and I guess its a Texas cowboy tradition of carrying a large Case or Boker trapper. The pancake sheaths are a work of art in themselves with a resemblance to a nice gun holster with contrast stitching and really heavy duty leather. The knives and sheaths are there to be admired and its not uncommon to see a couple of good ol Texas boys having a show and tell in the isle at Home Depot. I've even seen it done with handguns now and then.

When Karen and I left the east coast behind to start our golden years in Texas, it was not only a new beginning for us, but the start of a whole new reality.
 
Interesting story. I just feel it has very little todo with the knife being a knife. Exactly the same or worse would happen today, if you’d take your mask off, with no rationale either.
In retrospect I suspect that my experience was essentially the faint beginning of what has now become the so called "woke" school of philosophy that is in the process of inundating this country and its various institutions. Whenever I read of the latest pronouncement from the public adherents of that school of thought I am reminded of the old saying that those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who haven't.

Harry
 
A nation of Sheeple we have sadly become.
I would like to think that not everybody has drunk the Kool Aid but it appears on a daily basis that there is more and more evidence that a great many individuals did indeed do so. If nothing else this realization certainly makes it easier to social distance when out and about in public because I have no desire to catch whatever those folks have become infective with. Unfortunately I do not foresee the imminent arrival of a vaccine to address this condition anywhere on our national horizon.

Harry
 
You need to come on down to Texas, Harry. Its a whole different world.

Fixed blades on hips are not unknown, and pocket clips are as common as Yellow taxi's in New York city. The 'older' men who don't carry the modern one hand wonder knife will have a leather pancake sheath on the belt, just in back of the right hip, and I guess its a Texas cowboy tradition of carrying a large Case or Boker trapper. The pancake sheaths are a work of art in themselves with a resemblance to a nice gun holster with contrast stitching and really heavy duty leather. The knives and sheaths are there to be admired and its not uncommon to see a couple of good ol Texas boys having a show and tell in the isle at Home Depot. I've even seen it done with handguns now and then.

When Karen and I left the east coast behind to start our golden years in Texas, it was not only a new beginning for us, but the start of a whole new reality.
It certainly is a whole new reality in Texas and a few other areas of this country. In 1999 I wanted to give serious consideration to transplanting the two of us to a more open and less politically correct area of the country but the realities of strong family and business ties to this specific area precluded that thought from coming to fruition. We both still carry SAKS on our persons and are licensed to carry concealed firearms but we have learned that not openly advertising those facts when we are out in public is in our best interests in view of the prevailing societal opinions pursuant to individuals who have made the choices that we have made. We view the ownership of knives and guns as just tools one employs in the course of trying to, as they used to say, do for ourselves as we navigate our path thru these ever changing and ever challenging times. We had no preconceived ideas of what retirement would entail for us but I can honestly say that even if we had what is in the process of taking place daily today certainly is well beyond what we could have expected life to be like now. We accept that the world is the way it is and go about our days acting according to what we think is the appropriate way to conduct ourselves. As the bromide says.....wherever you go there you are.........

Harry
 
Back around the late 1990s or so, a woman once saw me clipping some paper with the tiny scissors on my tiny Victorinox Classic and said ( in her most self-righteous tone), “I hope you realize that you are carrying a deadly weapon!” At the time, I held her gaze momentarily with a bored expression on my face, then carried on with what I was doing. I didn’t bother responding, although there had been many things about her that were fair game for unfriendly return comments. I think the fact that I looked bored and ignored her upset her even more.

Jim
 
Back around the late 1990s or so, a woman once saw me clipping some paper with the tiny scissors on my tiny Victorinox Classic and said ( in her most self-righteous tone), “I hope you realize that you are carrying a deadly weapon!” At the time, I held her gaze momentarily with a bored expression on my face, then carried on with what I was doing. I didn’t bother responding, although there had been many things about her that were fair game for unfriendly return comments. I think the fact that I looked bored and ignored her upset her even more.

Jim
Your lack of a verbal response was an excellent defense in the face of someone manifesting the symptoms of a terminal case of the arrogance of ignorance. I often wonder if people who show that same public behavior as that woman are really just upset when they see anybody else who they perceive as not marching to the same kazoo band as are they. I view any knife as a tool that can be employed to help me when confronted with the various small problems in life that everybody has to face at some juncture in time. What individuals who are afraid of seeing responsible knife ownership are actually demonstrating is that they have arrived of their own volition at the choice of being a future victim in life as opposed to trying to avoid that unpleasant state of affair. They may be comfortable with their choice as we take comfort in ours's.

Harry
 
Just Imagine how offended she would have been by the American flag on this one.

In a small college town near where I live that is home to 3 different educational institutions there is the expect diversity of opinion on all matters of course. There was quite a public to do when a woman professor from the flagship state university located there was complaining in the local newspaper about the town having the American flag flying on various light poles to commemorate national holidays such as Memorial Day. Her strident point of view was that she thought the Flag itself was symbolic of oppression and all manner of evil actions by this country over the course of its history and its flying in public bothered her tremendously.

Her newspaper article was published on September 10, 2001.

After September 11,2001 I don't recall hearing any more at least in a public forum from this particular professor.

Harry
 
In a small college town near where I live that is home to 3 different educational institutions there is the expect diversity of opinion on all matters of course. There was quite a public to do when a woman professor from the flagship state university located there was complaining in the local newspaper about the town having the American flag flying on various light poles to commemorate national holidays such as Memorial Day. Her strident point of view was that she thought the Flag itself was symbolic of oppression and all manner of evil actions by this country over the course of its history and its flying in public bothered her tremendously.

Her newspaper article was published on September 10, 2001.

After September 11,2001 I don't recall hearing any more at least in a public forum from this particular professor.

Harry
If someone really doesn't like the very being of the country they live in they should just leave it.
 
So this thread about something that happened 20 years ago has Sheeple, Kool-Aid, a softball swing at what Woke means, and a knife with an American Flag on it as a totem for supposedly warding off Snowflakes... Political Forum is that-a-way, gentlemen;) Also, what the hell does this have to do with Multi-Tools? This forum is for nerding out about the number of flathead screwdrivers that come on a Leatherman (too damn many, I say!)

But I'll bite. People can unreasonable. About anything. That lady may have gone off the deepend about your knife that day, a few weeks later may have an issue with a man in a turban in the same seat. People don't need political connotation to get spun up over stupid things.. I don't mean to be cranky, but it really irks me when a broad brush is used to paint a black and white, us-them, perspective.

I have had people in salt of the earth Indiana give me funny looks for using a 3.75" fixed blade at work...don't care. I'm the owner;) I have had people comment on the quality of an 18" khukuri lashed to my kilt while on a hike. I used a scary 4 layer SAK out in the open while in knife-fearing Europe (Ireland to be exact) without an eyebrow raised as I clipped the tag off my wife's new shawl with the scissors.

Life if conflict. It is an ebb and flow of meetings where disagreements will happen. Some will just be terse looks, some will be actual words. The only way to remotely change another person's perception is to have a positive impact in a situation they expected a negative one. That may be showing them how helpful a tool or knife can be in day to day life. It may just being overly nice and polite to show non knife folks that we aren't psychopaths looking for something to stab. Ya know, people just behaving like their mama taught them.

Maybe it's my naivety as a geriatric/proto millennial where at 40 I hope to be young enough not to simply retreat into my comfort zone as to what is "right" without thinking about it first, but old enough to not really give a damn what others think about my opinions? That woman was off her rocker, yes. Lots of people who don't carry a knife or tool don't "get it" until they find themselves needing one, yes. The world is going to hell in a hand basket because of THIS? Not a chance.
 
I have been pretty lucky to live in a rural farm area full of trucks and Buck knives on hips.
Heck last week at Walmart this guy had a huge cheap mall ninja Bowie kinda thing on his belt and nobody batted an eye.

I still try not to go flashing my knives around in public though, I just use it and put it right away.
This one has proved particularly people friendly, and honestly is often most appropriate for my cutting tasks anyways.
 
The last time I flew was in 1995 or so (and it will be the very last time). I flew frequently for years, always with multiple knives on my person and at least one first generation Spyderco Endura or something of similar size. I tried to imagine flying without a knife and a multi-tool and I couldn't do it, much less forego other tools that are part of my life, yet deemed unacceptable by the SAG (security theater guild) at airports.

Perhaps I am fortunate where I live. If I want to use a knife in public, I just do it. I always use a large-ish carry knife to cut meat in a restaurant and the only problem I've had was forgetting to wipe the blade before the steak residue dried.
 
People are often cliquish and their like minded friends reinforce specific behaviors. Ocassionally, the dummer ones will try to apply those values to the general population. I have seen it with weapon, knives, food choices, bottled water, plastic straws, paper, religion, vehicles, leathers and furs and just about anything. We use to think of such borish behavior as someone who was poorly socialized. These days some try to wear it as a badge of honor. Just ignore them until they exhaust themselves.

n2s
 
So this thread about something that happened 20 years ago has Sheeple, Kool-Aid, a softball swing at what Woke means, and a knife with an American Flag on it as a totem for supposedly warding off Snowflakes... Political Forum is that-a-way, gentlemen;) Also, what the hell does this have to do with Multi-Tools? This forum is for nerding out about the number of flathead screwdrivers that come on a Leatherman (too damn many, I say!)

But I'll bite. People can unreasonable. About anything. That lady may have gone off the deepend about your knife that day, a few weeks later may have an issue with a man in a turban in the same seat. People don't need political connotation to get spun up over stupid things.. I don't mean to be cranky, but it really irks me when a broad brush is used to paint a black and white, us-them, perspective.

I have had people in salt of the earth Indiana give me funny looks for using a 3.75" fixed blade at work...don't care. I'm the owner;) I have had people comment on the quality of an 18" khukuri lashed to my kilt while on a hike. I used a scary 4 layer SAK out in the open while in knife-fearing Europe (Ireland to be exact) without an eyebrow raised as I clipped the tag off my wife's new shawl with the scissors.

Life if conflict. It is an ebb and flow of meetings where disagreements will happen. Some will just be terse looks, some will be actual words. The only way to remotely change another person's perception is to have a positive impact in a situation they expected a negative one. That may be showing them how helpful a tool or knife can be in day to day life. It may just being overly nice and polite to show non knife folks that we aren't psychopaths looking for something to stab. Ya know, people just behaving like their mama taught them.

Maybe it's my naivety as a geriatric/proto millennial where at 40 I hope to be young enough not to simply retreat into my comfort zone as to what is "right" without thinking about it first, but old enough to not really give a damn what others think about my opinions? That woman was off her rocker, yes. Lots of people who don't carry a knife or tool don't "get it" until they find themselves needing one, yes. The world is going to hell in a hand basket because of THIS? Not a chance.
Nicely said and I will forgive your anti-screwdriver bias, LOL.
 
I know some have mentioned Texas as a place where folks have had different results upon display of a knife. However, about a year ago, I was by the ocean on South Padre and decided to try to photograph a Spyderco PM2 on a wooden post overlooking the beach with the ocean in the background. There wasn't anyone within 100 yards of me except my GF and I was clearly just trying to get a decent pic. Sure enough, someone made the effort to come by just to ask (tell) me to put the knife away. I did, and did so politely having gotten a so-so pic, but I was less than thrilled with interaction.
 
I work in an industrial yard (large overhead cranes, giant odd shaped movers of all kinds always beeping, huge sheets of steel everywhere, piping, etc. you get the picture). We always wear PPE and I always carry my Leatherman.

I’m standing in a circle of gentleman talking shop surrounded by 100 things that, if not incredibly aware and careful, could kill us. One of the guys calls me out for the clip he sees along my pocket. I tell him it’s my multi tool and that I carry it everyday. He starts in about how it likely has a blade on it and he doesn’t know my intentions with it. At this point I feel like I’m being pranked.

Not sure if that guy ever felt comfortable coming to work again but I still carry my Leatherman. Some people.
 
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