The S90V on your 940-1...scratching my head over micro chips.

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I love my 940-1, but the s90v is wearing me out. I don't use it very hard...nothing to cause the micro chips I'm getting and don't remember any events that should have caused the chips. They come one at a time...sometimes easily visible and other times notice the snag when checking sharpness. Each time I sharpen it to near polish and then again a week or so later...another one.
Anyone else experience this abnormalcy?
 
I had # 32 first production run of the 940-1 s90v and I sharpen a lot of knives and nothing was more irritating than s90v, it would get sharp but not crazy sharp, and the blade was seriously off center and had to go back to Benchmade for repair. I adventually sold the knife because of s90v, but a 940 is my daily EDC, I have heard more people complain about this special edition model more than most. Its to bad the knife is beautiful.
 
S90V has tons of carbides, it's not a surprise to hear people that get micro chipping, it's not a huge deal unless you have microscopic vision. I have found it does really well sharpened to 600 grit, just enough polish to handle cutting various items and not slip. It works best with a toothy edge, in my own experience.
 
I am experiencing chipping with S90V as well. each time it's been sharpened, then after some use (proper use, not paper slicing or hair popping) there'll be chipping. I can see/feel it when I check for sharpness by slicing paper.
 
Negative no chipping problems on mine. 15 DPS 600 grit finish with a strop.
S90V has tons of carbides, it's not a surprise to hear people that get micro chipping, it's not a huge deal unless you have microscopic vision. I have found it does really well sharpened to 600 grit, just enough polish to handle cutting various items and not slip. It works best with a toothy edge, in my own experience.

I've been taking it up to 1500 and then strop. I'll try 600. I would think there shouldn't be a problem with 17 deg per side. I'll give it a try. Thank you both.


I am experiencing chipping with S90V as well. each time it's been sharpened, then after some use (proper use, not paper slicing or hair popping) there'll be chipping. I can see/feel it when I check for sharpness by slicing paper.

Looks like we own the same knife.:)
 
It's possible that this will be reduced or even disappear after some sharpening. Factory sharpening is not always optimal - there are limitations inherent in the process that can cause this sort of problem. :o
 
It's possible that this will be reduced or even disappear after some sharpening. Factory sharpening is not always optimal - there are limitations inherent in the process that can cause this sort of problem. :o
That's what I was hoping for, as you say, but this sharpening will be #4 if I'm recalling correctly - maybe #5. I'm thinking maybe a batch didn't get the proper heat treat.
 
I bought bikedaddys 940-1, it held a awesome edge, however it was made for a mirror polished edge. If you want a scary sharp knife at 15 dps this is not the knife for you.
 
Noticed some micro chipping on mine as well towards the tip. Recently resharpened and haven't seen any further issues yet. Edge has only seen light use so far though.
 
This is interesting to me because I started a thread http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1310475-Help!-Benchmade-Osborne-940-1-CF-or-Spyderco-Sage-1?p=15033072#post15033072 discussing whether I should buy a Sage 1 or a 940-1 next, but there seem to be a lot of problems with this particular knife, and most of them appear to have to do with the blade, the grind pattern, edge retention, microchips and centering. Do you notice a pattern among your knives at all in terms of when they were purchased/born on date? Interested because this may influence my decision.
 
Sorry to read about your conundrum. I owned a custom knife in S90V and never had an issue with it. Like D2, we didn't want the edge to go flat dull, so asked for advice from the maker, become a friend in years following. Following the Crucible method, give the edge a good sharpening after using the blade well enough for it to start to pull. Seems in the next few rounds of sharpening there were less and less issues with chipping. In other words, just use the knife and don't worry too much.

Benchmade's been my favorite brand for more than ten years. Call it a growth spurt, albeit a painful one, there are a lot more production issues than ever was in past years. And frankly, although I don't care for Spyderco's offerings, they do seem to be more successful with their runs. There Is a pattern of off-centering, mixed with grind issues, and yes chipping. I read comments about many receiving flawless examples of the 940-1, but many also have theirs come out of the box on the other end...as described, that's a real problem.

I'm just a long-time enthusiast, so won't tell you what to do, but there Are other makers out there; some with issues of their own too, that use S90V (which has been around for many years...) Maybe it's held to a draw by Benchmade's superb customer Service. They are famous for fixing these production glitches. I know I've slowed way down on purchases. And have friends that have done the same. There's again a problem not openly discussed, but it's got to be hurting their bottom line.

Advice? Pick up a 940 from the regular catalog offerings. They're the same knife, just maybe simpler and not rushed to the market. There's a lot of us that own and love them. Good luck whatever you choose.
 
Sorry to read about your conundrum. I owned a custom knife in S90V and never had an issue with it. Like D2, we didn't want the edge to go flat dull, so asked for advice from the maker, become a friend in years following. Following the Crucible method, give the edge a good sharpening after using the blade well enough for it to start to pull. Seems in the next few rounds of sharpening there were less and less issues with chipping. In other words, just use the knife and don't worry too much.

Benchmade's been my favorite brand for more than ten years. Call it a growth spurt, albeit a painful one, there are a lot more production issues than ever was in past years. And frankly, although I don't care for Spyderco's offerings, they do seem to be more successful with their runs. There Is a pattern of off-centering, mixed with grind issues, and yes chipping. I read comments about many receiving flawless examples of the 940-1, but many also have theirs come out of the box on the other end...as described, that's a real problem.

I'm just a long-time enthusiast, so won't tell you what to do, but there Are other makers out there; some with issues of their own too, that use S90V (which has been around for many years...) Maybe it's held to a draw by Benchmade's superb customer Service. They are famous for fixing these production glitches. I know I've slowed way down on purchases. And have friends that have done the same. There's again a problem not openly discussed, but it's got to be hurting their bottom line.

Advice? Pick up a 940 from the regular catalog offerings. They're the same knife, just maybe simpler and not rushed to the market. There's a lot of us that own and love them. Good luck whatever you choose.

It sounds like even if the knife comes with one of these issues Benchmade will make it right, and I guarantee that's why people are still willing to buy them. If I knew for whatever reason that if the knife came without the exacting standards the industry currently upholds and I couldn't send it back to be fixed for free I wouldn't buy it in the first place and I'm guessing a lot of people would be the same way. If it were a $20 sodbuster I wouldn't care, but at close to $300 it should be at the same level of quality control as its competitors. Long and short, I'm not concerned about it anymore. I think I'll go 940-1 with confidence. Thank you for the advice!
 
Remember also that forums like this tend to attract a higher ratio of problems that you'd see across all purchasers as a whole - it's the nature of a hardware/hobby forum. Odds are very high you'll be very pleased without the need to get any service.
 
Remember also that forums like this tend to attract a higher ratio of problems that you'd see across all purchasers as a whole - it's the nature of a hardware/hobby forum. Odds are very high you'll be very pleased without the need to get any service.

Sure, like most people who review restaurants are very polarized, it's either the best place ever or the worst in history. Like I said on my other thread, I had to send my brand new CRK back with a bad detent and off center blade--I imagine I'm one in 5,000 in that situation, but I vocalize it so other people realize any company is fallible, it's how they handle it after that counts. CRK made it right, I imagine BM would too IF I found myself in that situation...but I really hope I don't!
 
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