the start of the 110?

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Probablly a dumb question, but several guys I work with were talking today about the famous buck110. and someone asked how long have they been making the 110, and they went back and forth for a while and It got me thinking? So what was the first production year for the 110? thanks in advance fellas- Joel
 
Check this article out. Second page has the quote below: http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/adventures/1277451.html?page=2


"MODEL 11O FOLDING HUNTER (Current)-- Evolution, not revolution, has made the Folding Hunter an even more handsome knife, but with the same distinctive features that helped vault Buck Knives into prominence when it was introduced in 1964. It has stood the test of time, becoming one of the most-copied knives, and, after 37 years, is still among the best-selling knives made today."

I did't read the whole article, there may have been an earlier prototype, but I guess this would be the commercial production date.
 
Grim, You have a point because at the 20 yr. reunion this was discussed during a seminar and the year you state was the year the 110 was discussed by the Buck's and it went on the drawing board . But first production models came out later . May even had a proto-type earlier . But I agree w/ 1964 . DM
 
I wish all of you had a copy of Tom Ables "The Story of Buck Knives". Good Reading.

Page 37 for those of you that do have.

August 1963 - approval for basic design of the 110
Nov 1963 - Build a production model
Sept 1964 - Full production after tooling and refinement delays.

Original price tag - $16.00

I think I paid $18.00 for my first 110 somewhere about 74 or so
 
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I wish all of you had a copy of Tom Ables "The Story of Buck Knives". Good Reading.

Page 37 for those of you that do have.

August 1963 - approval for basic design of the 110
Nov 1963 - Build a production model
Sept 1964 - Full production after tooling and refinement delays.

Original price tag - $16.00

I think I paid $18.00 for my first 110 somewhere about 74 or so


And the ones you bought back in the day, are worth more than you paid for them :thumbup:

The 110 has to be one of the best values there is in knives. Almost 35 years later, and the price has only doubled :thumbup: Yet the quality remains
 
After I had recalled that tidbit in Tom Ables Book, I have been sitting here and going through it. Shoulders are starting to ache...lol.

Couple of interesting tidbits. In 1980 new accounting analysis showed a loss in every Empress Trio set made, and production stopped on those. I have been curious about how old my set might be. So at least 80 or before.

But the most interesting. I saw that Bill Keys was instrumental in making the Bucklites. Pg 79.

Maybe Bill will pop in and give us a bit of history on that piece of business.

And having worked for Shell in the 1982ish time frame, I had heard of Kraton/Valox plastics like used in the Bucklites. But I didn't work in the chemical part.

And was a mention of the recession in '82 that slowed down knife sales. Would be interesting to know some numbers in 81,82,83. Too bad they didn't start the individual year stamps till 86. There could actually be very few 82 and 83 models, as the book talks about warehouse full of unsold inventory at the end of '81. P73.

One of you analytical types could take this book and maybe fill in some time lines on various knives. Like the 57,000 Buckmasters made in 1985.

I might have done that 20 years ago, but old age and lack of motivation has kicked me in the rear.

now I am off to ebay to see if the value of this book has skyrocketed all of a sudden...lol....
 
And the ones you bought back in the day, are worth more than you paid for them :thumbup:

The 110 has to be one of the best values there is in knives. Almost 35 years later, and the price has only doubled :thumbup: Yet the quality remains

And I just happened to have a box of about 40 that have dots and no dots, couple of one liners, some two liners, and three liners. To hell with that 401k mess....not :rolleyes::D:D
 
And just to keep it interesting, I'll remind you guys the 110 was being made in 1961. I recall Joe H. saying the 103 was originally designated as the 110. Then as the folding hunter was developed these 2 knives were given their current model numbers.
Finally found Joes' old post:
10-09-2000, 11:26 AM
Joe Houser
Moderator Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Post Falls, Idaho U.S.A.
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The 103 Skinner was first produced way back in the 50's. It was known as a model 110 back then. The first black phenolic handled skinner was made in 1961. Depending on the age of the knife, it could possibly be worth much more than the same 103 made today.

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Joe Houser
Director of Consumer relations
Buck Collectors club Administrator and member #123

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The first Bucklite model was the 422 (112 size). The idea came from a "112" I made for a friend of mine for a Christmas gift. I made a set of handles from Micarta and put it together with a 112 blade, rocker, spring holder and spring. I used rocker rivets (the rocker pin) for all of the rivets, becasue we did not have any other "headed" rivets. I was an Industrial Engineer at the time (setting up p[roduction standards, method analysis, etc) and I was just "fooling around" so to speak. A couple of my co-workers saw the Micarta version I made and wanted one, so I made a couple of them. This was around Dec '82 early '83 I believe. A couple of these got modified with the addition of finger grooves (my original one didn't have FG's). Some of the management and executive group saw them and liked the idea of a strong, light weight knife that could be priced a bit more competively (as you remember we were in a fairly tough recession in the early '80's). So the Enginering group began work on a new knife with light weight handles.
Machining handles from Micarta would not have been as cost effective as molding was and is. On the recommendation of the molder we were working with, we decided to use Valox which is a polyster material. It had a very high glass content which provided a great deal of strength. Polyster, in my opinion is actually a beter material than Nylon as Polyester is more chemically inert and less hydroscopic when molded than Nylon. Anyway, we went into production with two piece handles that we riveted together and using 112 blades stamped with 422. The sheath was a simple nylon sheath. The 426 (110) and 424 (501) sizes followed very quickly. The largest seller of these three has always been the 422.
I have the second production knife made, engraved as such, with my name on it. It was presented to me by the VP of Manufacturing at the time (Everett Giles). I also have a plaque of thank you presented to me by Chuck at a company dinner. The plaque is dated 1983, that is why I believe it was Christmas of '82 that I made the first one- I can't recall dates from a month ago at this point much less 20 years ago.
The 1 piece Bucklites came about from a suggestion the then Engineering Manager (Bob Vachata) made to me. I was a Manufacturing Engineering then working primarily on New Products (in fact I did many of the new products at that time as we did not have a New Product Dept). I do not remember the exact date of the change from 1 pc to 2 pc, but it would have been mid/late '80's ('85 - '87?). Somewhere in here is when we introduced the 425 also which was also my project. Ultimately, the 425 became the largest selling Bucklite ever. There were a few years when we produced and sold over 1/4 million 425's alone; total sales for the series excedded 500,000 units annually.
In my humble opinion, the absolute best Bucklite series we produced was the 1 pc version (second would be the original 2pc). To my knowledge, we have never received a return for a handle defect; that is not to say a few didn't exist, but this version was in essence bullet proof. The returns were primarily for broken blades (some things never change)
A sort of brief history of the Bucklite. Two of the things I prize most are the original 422 and the plaque I was given. It was truly a "rush" being able to help bring about one of the most successful products lines we had.

Bill Keys
Director of Manufacturing and Engineering
Buck Knives, Inc.
 
Thanks Bill,

Everyone here really enjoys these windows into the history. Please keep them coming.

300Bucks
 
My Thanks! for the anecdotes, too, Bill! :cool::thumbup:

Now, lessee...Someone else at Buck was going to post pics of his first two Buck assembles...Oh, yeah - it was Jeff!!! Hey Jeff!!! :D
 
Thanks Bill!!! :thumbup: Great info!

When I read 425, I started digging in the miscellaneous junque drawer and sure nuff, I had one left. Sheds a new light on it. Has a 2004 tang stamp so looks like they have had a long production run.

One of the 425's I had now lives on the son in laws gear belt. He is a county deputy. He carries others, but that one is there too.
 
Hats off to Bill for that good historical post .
Scott, Yes there were two predecessor's of the 103 skinner which were good designs . The 110 a trailing point heavy skinner and 112 a trailing point lite skinner with good belly . I've seen pictures of them w/ lignum vitae handles . Larry Oden may have one .
Both these are mentioned in the club site, model history . DM
 
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