The surprising effect of using layered carbon fiber boards as knife scales

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Knife makers are artists. Many knives using expensive materials are stunning looking. But once a while there is one knocks your socks off AND you know the material is not that expensive. It was all about the knife maker's skills and imagination.

When I sent the Carbon Fiber material to Justin, I wasn't sure what it turns out. Somehow he was able to produce the look and the grain of super dense blackwood.

I am not sure if he is a member here. More of his work can be found on instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blackravenarmsknives/

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That looks like the normal layering that is exposed when shaping flat-laminated materials like G10 and micarta.
Looks good!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
There is a company called CarbonLite that makes carbon fiber wrenches. They recommend wearing gloves while using their wrenches due to the possibility of carbon fiber splinters. Just curious if this would be a problem with carbon fiber knife handles as well.
 
There is a company called CarbonLite that makes carbon fiber wrenches. They recommend wearing gloves while using their wrenches due to the possibility of carbon fiber splinters. Just curious if this would be a problem with carbon fiber knife handles as well.

Thank you for the information! I will look into it.

In regard to the knife I posted, the maker said it was still work in progress so it is not clear what finishes will be applied to the end product.
 
Thank you for the information! I will look into it.

In regard to the knife I posted, the maker said it was still work in progress so it is not clear what finishes will be applied to the end product.


Yah, maybe some sort of laquer or sealant like they put on fly-fishing rods would work?
 
I haven't noticed any splinters on my carbon fiber handles, but I also haven't kept one around for more than a month or so before selling it. None of the customers have said anything about it so it must not be too big of a deal if it's happening at all.
 
I don't touch carbon fiber with a 10ft pole. Have a big sheet of it with 2 sets of scales cut out and it will most likely sit that way forever.
 
I don't touch carbon fiber with a 10ft pole. Have a big sheet of it with 2 sets of scales cut out and it will most likely sit that way forever.

I am a big fan of Mr Starks work, and if he is having no issues that makes me feel good--but I must admit, I'm currently in the school with JT--I have a friend that got a splinter from a carbon fiber arrow, and nearly had his hand amputated because of it---uggggggh!!!
 
That's crazy. I made a couple carbon fiber canoe paddles and finished them with spar varnish. They've held up great.

Is the fear of splinters from breaking?
 
I am a big fan of Mr Starks work, and if he is having no issues that makes me feel good--but I must admit, I'm currently in the school with JT--I have a friend that got a splinter from a carbon fiber arrow, and nearly had his hand amputated because of it---uggggggh!!!


You brought up an important topic, and I think the issue here is "Carbon Fiber" are actually many entirely different materials. And people don't know that because of all of them are under the same marketing term, carbon fiber.

The ones they use to make arrows, or fishing poles (sometimes known as graphite as a marketing term), are "pultruded carbon fiber", where fibers are pulled in one direction and they form a continuous rod or a tube based on the mold. This material can cause splinters because the fibers are all in the same direction. You do not see pultruded carbon fiber in knife making with the exception of CF rods used as pins.

The carbon fiber boards used in crafts, and knife scales, are Carbon Fiber Reinforced Polymer Laminates. They are made of thin layers of woven carbon fiber then mixed with resin. The laminates are created in a way that fibers are in all different directions: 0, 45, 90, 135, etc. This material will not cause any splinter because there is not enough fiber in the same direction. Think of this as another version of woven glass fiber board (such as g10) or cloth/canvas fiber board (micarta). None of these material will cause splinters.

I looked into CarbonLite. Judging from the photos it is hard to determine which type of carbon fiber material they are using. But if the tool can cause splinters it is probably not a modern CFRP laminate material. They probably have other reasons to pick the material used. But I don't think that is comparable to what we are using for knife scales.

Another important thing to point out is Carbon Fiber boards are lighter than metal, but should not be that light. Solid carbon fiber boards have a density around 120 pound per cubic foot, they are heavier than most natural wood, probably comparable to stabilized wood. If a carbon fiber product is unusually light, it's probably only has carbon fiber cloth on the surface. The inside can be hollow, or hardboard paper, or honeycoab aluminum, or others. I don't have faith in a lot of carbon fiber products in the market. People call it carbon fiber because of the color and the look. Who knows what is really inside. Unless you can cut into the material, you really do not know what it is.
 
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Thank you for the information! I will look into it.

In regard to the knife I posted, the maker said it was still work in progress so it is not clear what finishes will be applied to the end product.

Why finis on carbon ? Very fine sandpaper , little polishing and carbon will revealed all his beauty ? Very , very thin applied coat of epoxy will give deep look in carbon ....To bed that I can't take good picture of my carbon handle , hand wrapped to see that deep look ...

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