The Tactical Sebenza!!!!

Is the Sebbie a Tac?

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Hello. I have read several times that some folks think the Sebbie ain't tactical. What do you guys think?
Personally, I think that a new Large Sebbie is about as tactial as any other knife out there.
I think the grooves make it much more tactical than the classic.
So what's the opinion? Tactical or not, and why?
 
Ummmm.... I guess it depends on what your definition of tactical is...
I carry a large Sebbie EDC, it is an excellent tool. I carry it on duty as a police officer, it is still an excellent tool.
For serious social situations there are many options i.e. shotgun, sidearm, baton, pepperspray, a big rock or flashlight that I would turn to before a knife (and I love knives). I think that as a Weapon retention device the knife excells, but the Sebenza is not ideal, by far, for that. A large, fast opening (by the weak hand), knife with a very aggressive seration pattern is best. The Spyderco Civilian and Military are about perfect.
The Sebbie remains a wonderful knife, and one that I enjoy carrying and using.
Stay safe,
Chad
 
Well I think that the Sebenza is as good as a tactical knife as just about any folder. It has a sharp blade and excellent lockup. The thumbramp is nice also. I think I could tear someone up with a Sebenza. I don't see how it would be considered to be any less tactical than any other folding blade. It doesn't have the "I mean business" look of an Emerson, but I believe that it would do a very good job of slicing someone up.
 
Originally posted by OwenM

:confused: Huh?
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Take a look at the Original or Classic Sebenza. The handle is smooth, smooth, smooth.
On the new Sebenzas, there is are grooves or notches on the handle that provide a much bettter grip (IMO) that the Classic style.
 
Granted, Tactical can sometimes be in the eye of the beholder. However I've never viewed the Sebenza as a "Tactial" folder, and actually always considered it to be a gentelmen's dress folder that was functional.
 
It has a more utilitarian look to it, but when you come right down to it, anything with a sharp edge and a point can be "tactical" under given circumstances.
 
I guess you could call it tactical. It has one hand opening and a pocket clip. That makes it tactical enough to be considered as such. I wouldn't call the blade opening quite fast enough to be a really good tactical though. And the knife looks much more like a tool than a weapon, if that's what you consider tactical. There isn't a stich of black on a Seb.

That's why I love my Seb. It's functional to the point of perfection, in terms of use as a tool. It doesn't look or pretend to be "tactical".
 
"Tactical" originally referred to the maneuvers in combat that the brass in designing the strategy had ordered. The grunt work, as opposed to the gentlemanly practice of drawing arrows on a map.

Ya wanna fight? Take the Sebenza out, deploy the blade, spin it into a reverse grip, and tell me you aren't ready to rumble. What else is "tactical"? Utility in a combat zone. The Sebenza will handle slicing and dicing, light chopping, and the occasional prying or ripping open, although it may lose some of its cheery good looks in the process.

Unless you would rather rely on a piece of 420J2 when your health and well-being are on the line? Well, unless you're an Afghan "freedom fighter" you probably rely on something else for combat, like a B-52. What you really need in a combat zone is ... a tool. Like a Leatherman, maybe, with a sharp bladed folder to do the real cutting. Like a Sebenza. Yeah, it's "tactical".
 
While the Sebenza could be used in a tactical situation and in the field due to it's quality and engineering I won't take mine to the field for the simple reason that the blade it too shiny. Having something that reflective on your person while trying to sneak around in the woods, jungle, etc. is a good way to get killed. If I could get a large Sebenza with a black "Kalgaurd"(spelling?) blade I would consider it maybe.
I guess it really depends on your idea of "tactical", mine is probable different than most peoples here on the forum if only from a more practical point of view. As for me I will go with Strider's definition of tactical knives"Tools made for war". Tactical for some one in another branch of service or another job field would be different and a Sebenza would fit their needs.
So for now I carry my Sebenza in garrison and in civilian clothes :)
 
This is a very interesting thread. It does indeed depend on what you consider necessary and sufficient to be "tactical", and we've had some interesting ideas added to the list here.

If "tactical" means "designed for war", and some non reflective coating was a necessary component of that, then indeed there are other "tactical knives" besides the Sebenza that would no longer qualify for the moniker. I'm inclined to be a little broader in my concept of tactical, and include unexpected street-combat (self defense) in that role. You don't usually care if your knife reflects light if you typically carry it closed and in combat deploy it only when you are facing an enemy who already knows where you are.

My broadest concept of tactical though consists of availability, utility, and strength. By this definition, the Seb certainly qualifies. It's second to none in strength, up there with the best in over-all utility, and roughly equal to most other clipped-one-handed folders in availability (deployability).
 
My definition of a tactical knife (especially folder):
Any knife in your hand that you would prefer over a basic working knife (ie Gerber Gator, Buck 110, Umfaan, Spyderco Delica, etc.) while in the presence of, or being attacted by BGs.
 
I love my large Sebenza and I carry it often, but...

I think the Sebenza makes an adequate defensive knife, but I prefer designs with a more positive grip and some sort of lower finger guard for the purpose. Not that I'd turn down the Sebenza in a pinch.

My three preferred defensive knives are the REKAT Sifu, Emerson Commander, and Kershaw Boa.

--Bob Q
 
Bob Q
I will absolutely agree with you there.
The best tacs have good finger grooves.
My question wasn't really how good a Sebenza is,
but rather, does it make the grade?
 
Pergatory: I guess it would depend on how narrowly you define tacticals. In my opinion the Sebenza meets the basic qualifications, but would not be at the top of the list.

--Bob Q
 
While a good knife from a good maker it is way to over priced to be a real world knife
for the Joe Average's of the world . I'd guess it the snob appeal of owning a knife that
cost that much that sells so many. For my money it's just a knife. I can do better
for way less money.
 
Originally posted by Tightwad
While a good knife from a good maker it is way to over priced to be a real world knife
for the Joe Average's of the world . I'd guess it the snob appeal of owning a knife that
cost that much that sells so many. For my money it's just a knife. I can do better
for way less money.

I'm not one to be argumentative, but I don't quite agree with your stated perception here. I'm about as "average joe" as you're going to find, and I use the hell out of my Sebenza. It's cleaned moose, caribou, blackies, I've coated the blade with blaze orange surveying paint accidentally, loaned it to a bonehead co-worker that's run the edge straight down a brick retaining wall, pried paint can lids, coated it with grout (quick dry concrete) and basically used it for every task you could imagine in the construction field, outdoors, or as a volunteer EMT. I darn near cried when I forked out the money for it $285 used) but, it has truly been delivering it's money's worth for me. It really holds very little snob appeal for me, and I rarely tell anyone what I paid for it, cause I quickly get tired of hearing "YOU PAID $300 FOR A KNIFE??!! YOU COULDA GOTTEN A GUN FOR THAT MUCH!!" (if I wanted a gun, I'd have gotten a #@!* gun!)

I guess to state things a bit more simply, I've used my knife in "the real world" aplenty and I'm about as "average joe" as a person can get,and I certainly don't regret buying my Sebbie.

I'm a bit of a freak, but I can't be the only p!ss broke ordinary dude to own one.

in my belief the Sebbie is tactical in a pinch, (same way I believe a Swiss Tinker could be) but overall if tactical use is a primary consideration, it's probably not ideal. not the quickest opening, no ninja coating, serrations, finger grooves, etc.

Y'all have a good 'un!
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When I got my first Sebenza, it took me about 3 hours to understand why this knife receives such high praise. IMHO a tatical folder is a folding knife with a good lock- Sebbies have a good lock

a tactical folder is easy, and quick to deploy- Sebies are quick and easy to deploy.

a tactical foder should have good steel- Sebbies have good steel.
Last but not least, Tactical knives should feel secure when gripped.
Afer you find the grip that works for you the Sebbie feels excellent in the hand. Just my opinon.:D
 
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